Humans're a special creation

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 942 here:

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humans are a special creation
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For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.

Folks're reminded that in this section of the site the Bible ain't considered authoritative.

[JoeyKnothead]

The methodology (MEANS) is to have a relevant set of criteria, the criteria offered was just a suggestion which is why you see the words "such as " as in, "for example" , since they represent areas by which humans may well prove to occupy a unique position in the known universe. Other criteria may well be just as effective.

So then, we can't even tell what criteria to use, in seeking to determine the validity of the OP claim.

[Tcg]

There is also this.




Tcg

[brunumb]

From Post 942 here:

...
humans are a special creation
...

For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.

Folks're reminded that in this section of the site the Bible ain't considered authoritative.

If humans are indeed a special creation, I wonder why God didn't actually make us all that special. Plants for example are very distinct or special when compared with animals. Within the animal kingdom there are huge differences between birds and reptiles and insects and mammals to the extent that any one group could be considered special when compared with the others. Then, when we consider mammals, humans are really not all that special. We share most physical characteristics, maybe just organised a bit differently. We are not all that different from other members of the ape family. So, if humans were a special creation by God, why didn't he actually make us special and as distinct from the other animal groups as they are from each other? The religious will claim that we are special by having a soul, but there is nothing to suggest that is actually true or that no other living things possess this feature as well. They may also claim we are special by virtue of our intelligence, but out of all animals with intelligence one will have to be at the top of the pile without having been specially endowed. Are only special because we are able to think that we are?

[JehovahsWitness]

Even if it could be shown that humans occupy a unique position in the known universe, that wouldn't establish that they are a "special creation."

I can't see why not; occupying a unique position in the known universe arguably fits the very definition of "special"



... and the same source defines CREATION as {quote }"the action or process of bringing something into existence" {end quote} whatever the process or the source, humans exist and, since evidence indicates we have not always done so, there must have been an act or a process that resulted in our existence.


In short if (and I am NOT making a claim here, just presenting a supposition) IF .... a methodology that could establish that humans are unique in the known universe it would by definition establish they are a "special creation" as in an exceptional product.

[William]

[Replying to Tcg in post #10]

I see why you are 'not seeing it'.

I was referring to the inner workings rather than the meat the workings are packaged inside of...



Go deeper and perhaps you will see that it does offer insight into why our universe 'looks' the way it does - suspiciously like the inner workings of a brain.

[Tcg]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #14]

Nice try. The word "creation" implies the existence of a creator. Unless one can present a reason to accept the existence of such a thing, the phrase "special creation" is fallacious. Beyond that, other than the fact that we have much less hair than other apes, we aren't much different from them other than the aforementioned ability to destroy our environment and the environments of other species.


Tcg

[Tcg]

[Replying to Tcg in post #10]

I see why you are 'not seeing it'.

I was referring to the inner workings rather than the meat the workings are packaged inside of...

You've failed to present any reason to jump to the conclusion that there is any difference between the two. The picture I presented shows the inner contents of a brain. It looks nothing like the universe you claim it should look like.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #14]

Nice try. The word "creation" implies the existence of a creator. ....

Tcg

It can do but according to the dictionary it doesnt have to. Definition #1 is the word's more general meaning (unless you don't think that artists create anything, only God ... ).







Given the above only the writer/speaker can confirm whether God is being alluded to or not. I am the writer of the above post.
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JW

[Tcg]

Both of otseng's observations are correct.

otseng "earth is a special creation, humans are a special creation.

This is on the assumption that otseng isn't claiming that other life-forms are less 'special' but that human forms are made for specific purpose, as is the Earth.

Humans seem to be made for the specific purpose of causing the extinction of other life forms and the earth for the specific purpose of giving them a place to do so. Special indeed.


Tcg

[nobspeople]

Both of otseng's observations are correct.

otseng "earth is a special creation, humans are a special creation.

This is on the assumption that otseng isn't claiming that other life-forms are less 'special' but that human forms are made for specific purpose, as is the Earth.

Humans seem to be made for the specific purpose of causing the extinction of other life forms and the earth for the specific purpose of giving them a place to do so. Special indeed.


Tcg

To be fair, this could mean that by creating extinctions and damage to earth, humans aren't acting with how they were created (ie not acting with the intent).
That said, if humans were created by (G)god, and it screwed up perfection (the garden) by allowing sin to enter it, then wiping out 99.99999% of life on earth with a flood, showing it screwed up by allowing such debauchery, it could be that humans are simply following in its footsteps, in a sense