Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[nobspeople]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #2258]

But it does appear that both Jesus and the author of the scripture he part-quoted, were unaware that this earth would not last forever.
I wonder if it bothers the meek and righteous that while they await their promised inheritance, every day that passes adds human-made pollution to the situation?

That is why the scripture says of these last days: "The nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your servants the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name...and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

So - even more mess for the meek to inherit.

Some would say the meek 'deserve what they get'.

[William]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #2258]

But it does appear that both Jesus and the author of the scripture he part-quoted, were unaware that this earth would not last forever.
I wonder if it bothers the meek and righteous that while they await their promised inheritance, every day that passes adds human-made pollution to the situation?

That is why the scripture says of these last days: "The nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your servants the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name...and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

So - even more mess for the meek to inherit.

Some would say the meek 'deserve what they get'.

'deserve what they get' is another way of saying 'YHWH will grant you your wishes". It is one way of serving justice whereby everyone is shown where their granted wishes will take them.

The ability of foresight helps one to think through the desires of ones heart through logic-based filters.

[nobspeople]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #2258]

But it does appear that both Jesus and the author of the scripture he part-quoted, were unaware that this earth would not last forever.
I wonder if it bothers the meek and righteous that while they await their promised inheritance, every day that passes adds human-made pollution to the situation?

That is why the scripture says of these last days: "The nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your servants the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name...and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

So - even more mess for the meek to inherit.

Some would say the meek 'deserve what they get'.

'deserve what they get' is another way of saying 'YHWH will grant you your wishes"

Or or OR....it could mean 'be careful what you ask for'

[William]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #2258]

But it does appear that both Jesus and the author of the scripture he part-quoted, were unaware that this earth would not last forever.
I wonder if it bothers the meek and righteous that while they await their promised inheritance, every day that passes adds human-made pollution to the situation?

That is why the scripture says of these last days: "The nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your servants the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name...and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

So - even more mess for the meek to inherit.

Some would say the meek 'deserve what they get'.

'deserve what they get' is another way of saying 'YHWH will grant you your wishes"

Or or OR....it could mean 'be careful what you ask for'

Post #2245
William: "Notions of living forever on this planet are romantic stories which must have been popular around ancient campfires, - the wish in personalities who believe this so strongly they want to be a part of it, but often such wishes are not accompanied with thinking through the implications - which is also why there is a saying - "Be careful what you wish for.""

[JehovahsWitness]

But how does this explain why Jesus appears to be unaware that the Earth will not literally exist forever?

We can only presume because Jesus knew the earth would indeed literally exist forever.


Logically an omnipotent God can do whatever he pleases and since scripture says an eternal earth is God's good pleasure, there is no good reason Jesus would choose to give the appearance of knowing something that simply is not true. Jesus (as The Word) helped make the earth, He would certainly be aware of how to keep it in existence.

COLOSSIANS 1:15, 16
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him.

PROVERBS 8:30, 31
I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.

[William]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2265]

So you are saying that despite the physical evidence and Earth being part of the physical universe, the Earth is somehow not subject to / outside of the affects of the rest of the universe?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2265]

So you are saying that despite the physical evidence and Earth being part of the physical universe, the Earth is somehow not subject to / outside of the affects of the rest of the universe?

Do you have an alternative understanding of the word ... omnipotent ?

I am saying God created and sustains the universe and being omnipotent can keep any part of it functioning as long as He chooses. Whether he chooses to defy the laws of science, manipulate them or walk on water to eliminate them and write new ones... omnipotence is what it is.

ISAIAH 20:46

Lift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who brings out their army by number; He calls them all by name. Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, not one of them is missing

JOB 42:2

"Now I know that you are able to do all things and that nothing you have in mind to do is impossible for you"

Any questions?

To learn more please go to other posts related to ....

OMNISCIENCE , OMNIPOTENCE and ...SELECTIVE FOREKNOWLEDGE

[William]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2267]

Any questions?

Why would YHWH not simply create a different universe where the physical laws are not the same as this universe?

A simple universe without any galaxies and stars - just the Earth and sun and maybe the moon and put the meek there?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2267]

Any questions?

Why would YHWH not simply create a different universe where the physical laws are not the same as this universe?

He has ... We call that heaven.

PSALM 115:16 Young's Literal Translation

The heavens -- the heavens are Jehovah's, And the earth He hath given to sons of men

.... just the Earth and sun and maybe the moon and put the meek there?

God already created an Earth, sun and moon for the meek ; we're on it.






JW

[William]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2269]

If only the bible mentioned a new heaven or a new earth, I might have a point.

Still, I think there is no reason why there cannot be a numbers of different universes all catering to the various requirements of those who are experiencing them.

Why do you want this particular one?