Easter Traditions?

[Tcg]

Are there any Easter Traditions that are related specifically to Jesus' resurrection? The Easter eggs hunts, bunnies and pastel-colored candies seem to be a celebration of spring. Certainly, sermons will be preached on Jesus' resurrection, but are there any Easter Traditions that Christians practice with their families that are focused on Jesus?


Tcg

[brunumb]

Because the jesus story is full of holes?

Just the hands and feet.

Which could make walking on water problematic should he try that again on his return.

(Sorry. Couldn't hold it in. The devil made me do it)

[JehovahsWitness]

Can you reference where the Last supper in John is identified as the first day of the festival of unfermented bread

John does not specifically say this and one has to admit his time markers are somewhat ambiguous, but he has Jesus eat what is evidently the Passover meal (13:3) and then reports he died on the same day calling it the "Preparation of the Passover" (19:14).

Since it is a matter historical record there was a Passover meal on the 14th and a Festival on the 15th , this is the most reasonable conclusion.




Does Johns employ of metonym mean he could not be referring to 15th Nisan at John 18:28?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 34#p998834





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[JehovahsWitness]

The synoptic version makes it clear that the disciples made preparations for the Passover feast on the Wednesday first day of the festival of unleavened bread when the Passover lambs were killed in the Temple, and the last Supper was the Seder feast, 14th Nisan.

Can you reference where the Last supper in John is identified as the first day of the festival of unfermented bread

Can you reference where the synoptic version identified preparations for the Passover feast on the Wednesday first day of the festival of unleavened bread when the Passover lambs were killed in the Temple?








NOTE Mark does not mention the wednesday or the temple and has the
"passover sacrifice" in the singular (no mention of lambs- plural)

[JehovahsWitness]

at's the evidence?

John has Jesus executed on the day of preparation, before the Jews ate the Passover.

The day of Preperation are somewhat genetic term which can refer to the day before the Sabbath , the day before a Festival or the day before any holy day . Which of the above meanings do you think John is using ? And why?

...that they be not obliged to go before any judge on the Sabbath-day, nor on the day of the preparation to it, after the ninth hour - Jos. Antiq. XVI. vi. 2

Préparation day : https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/ ... ration-Day

[JoeyKnothead]

WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT OF THE DAY JESUS DIED?

I'm starting to think it's us eating stuff that's got God all in a bunch.

Gives us mouths and stomachs, fusses at us for eating

[TRANSPONDER]

I just started on the video. And the first point was that Christians make Jesus the Passover sacrifice because his legs weren't broken and the lamb shank of the Passover Seder lamb is not broken, If it was, it would be Tref, unclean, and could not be eaten. Now I don't hear this much. But I doubt that Christians would be bothered by this Joe's argument as they would reckon that God can make a human sacrifice if he wants, including his own begotten son, and Jesus had made all the old Laws (though not changed ) obsolete. But it would make sense of why John quotes (19.36) that passage about Jesus' bones not being broken. Though I suspect he didn't know or care (1) about God ensuring that Jesus according to Mosaic Law was not an unclean sacrifice.

(1) Though Matthew might. Which could be a reason he left out the passage about the killing of the Lambs on the first day of Passover.

There are other rules for the sacrifice which are conveniently ignored in the case of Jesus. For example, the blood of the sacrifice had to be poured onto the altar in the temple. And the sacrificial lamb was supposed to die of blood loss, not of asphyxiation or by any other cause. The point is that if the death of Jesus is supposed to line up with a sacrifice which has numerous specific criteria, it's either all or nothing. Christians don't have the luxury of going halvsies.

I agree. As suggested by the video and the reference to Paul's Passover analogy, Christianity has tumbled into equating Jesus' death abrogating disobedience - sin with being a Paschal blood -sacrifice, and never mind that it doesn't conform with Jewish sacrifice -procedure.

Can you reference where the Last supper in John is identified as the first day of the festival of unfermented bread

John does not specifically say this and one has to admit his time markers are somewhat ambiguous, but he has Jesus eat what is evidently the Passover meal (13:3) and then reports he died on the same day calling it the "Preparation of the Passover" (19:14).

Since it is a matter historical record there was a Passover meal on the 14th and a Festival on the 15th , this is the most reasonable conclusion.




Does Johns employ of metonym mean he could not be referring to 15th Nisan at John 18:28?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 34#p998834

To learn more please go to other posts related to ...

THE PASSOVER, THE MOSAIC LAW COVENANT and ... SABBATH KEEPING

Yes,the last Supper matches what is pretty evidenty the Passover meal in the synoptics. But the passages I referenced in John make it clear that the Passover hadn't been eaten yet when Jesus was tried, so in John that last supper can't be the Seder. You said that John identified it as such. Where? If you can't do so, then there is a real discrepancy here and your efforts to evade it will not do you much credit. Nor, I may say, will your links to supposed explanations, since they don't add up to anything useful.

e.g John never said the word meal, he referred to eating "the Passover" the question is , which Passover was he referring to eating (John 18:28)?

This is just evasiveness. It is a question of eating the Seder (Passover meal) and that is only done once during Passover.

[JehovahsWitness]

But the passages I referenced in John make it clear that the Passover hadn't been eaten yet when Jesus was tried, ...

Which Passover was John refering to at 18:28? the Passover festival (15th) or the Passover meal (14th)?

[JehovahsWitness]

You said that John identified it as such. Where?

Where did I say "John Identified it"?

Both John and the Synoptics have Jesus' evening meal (the last supper) on the first day of the festival of unfermented bread. That evidently refered in Jesus day to Nisan 14, the day of the sedar meal .

Above are my conclusions based on the available evidence, I never said John identied the meal as the Sedar on the 14th, I said that on that occassion the first day of the festival of unfermented bread... evidently refered to the day of the sedar meal"

It is a question [at John 18:28] of eating the Seder (Passover meal) ...

How do you know this?

[TRANSPONDER]

The synoptic version makes it clear that the disciples made preparations for the Passover feast on the Wednesday first day of the festival of unleavened bread when the Passover lambs were killed in the Temple, and the last Supper was the Seder feast, 14th Nisan.

Can you reference where the Last supper in John is identified as the first day of the festival of unfermented bread

Can you reference where the synoptic version identified preparations for the Passover feast on the Wednesday first day of the festival of unleavened bread when the Passover lambs were killed in the Temple?








NOTE Mark does not mention the wednesday or the temple and has the
"passover sacrifice" in the singular (no mention of lambs- plural)

I already did. Jesus, dude, I drew you a map.

Wednesday First day of unleavened bread, lambs killed in the temple, 13th Nisan, disciples make ready for the Passover Luke 22.7 Mark 14 12.
Thursday 14th Nisan Last supper (Seder feast) Arrest in the evening
Friday trial. Day of preparation John 19.31 Priests have to stay pure to eat the Passover John 1.28 Crucifixion
Saturday, sabbath. Jesus in tomb. Passover perhaps eaten so this is 14th Nisan or it may come later. It's just that one would expect Jesus to be killed along with the Passover lambs.

You will not, I am sure, continue to try to make a case with 'Mark does not name a day or the Temple'. What day do you think was two days before Crucifixion Friday? Where do you think the Paschal lambs were killed? The Jerusalem Hippodorome?

The discrepancy between the synoptics is making the last supper the Passover feast in the Synoptics and John making it clear that it hadn't been eaten yet on the next day is a problem.

How do you resolve it? Evasion will not wash. It has made you and your case look bad enough just over the last couple of posts.

[JehovahsWitness]

The synoptic version makes it clear that the disciples made preparations for the Passover feast on the Wednesday first day of the festival of unleavened bread when the Passover lambs were killed in the Temple, and the last Supper was the Seder feast, 14th Nisan.

Can you reference where the synoptic version identified preparations for the Passover feast on the Wednesday first day of the festival of unleavened bread when the Passover lambs were killed in the Temple?

I already did.

You evidently believe you did but you did no such thing.