If you were Satan....

[Athetotheist]

I remember a TV preacher once asking his broadcast audience, "If you were Satan....." I don't remember the rest of the question, but I seem to remember that he was talking about prophecy and arguing that Satan was up to some diabolical mischief ("If you were Satan, isn't that what you would do?").

A lot of detail in Christian scripture about what is to happen before Jesus returns is tied to the activity of "Satan". The appearance of the "antichrist", in particular, is supposed to be part of Satan's last gambit before he goes down to utter defeat.

Since it was asked of me how I would react if I were Satan, I think it's fair for me to answer. I know that "Satan" is supposed to be a being of superhuman intelligence, but I can't help thinking that if such a being actually existed and if I were that being, I could do a lot better.

If I were "Satan", I would scrap the antichrist plan. If it's all laid out in the Bible, then everyone knows what to expect and you've lost the element of surprise. With that one simple deviation from the prophetic scenario, the whole thing would be gummed up. No antichrist, no mark of the beast, no abomination of desolation, no anything I was supposed to do as Satan to set the stage for the return of Jesus. And without those prophetic components in place, Jesus couldn't return to fulfill prophecy. And how could anyone stop me? I wouldn't be taking some action which could be prevented; I would be defeating prophecy by not taking action.

So let me pass the preacher's question on to you. If you were "Satan", what would you do----or not do----to thwart prophecy?

[JehovahsWitness]

I don't believe prophecy can be twarted.

What you may or may not believe is irrelevant in a sub-forum dedicated to debate. Evidence is what is needed here. Your claim of what you believe is evidence only that you claim to believe something. It isn't evidence that your belief is valid. In fact, it is perfectly useless here.


Tcg

No I dont believe it is.

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.


Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.


JW

[Tcg]

I don't believe prophecy can be twarted.

What you may or may not believe is irrelevant in a sub-forum dedicated to debate. Evidence is what is needed here. Your claim of what you believe is evidence only that you claim to believe something. It isn't evidence that your belief is valid. In fact, it is perfectly useless here.


Tcg

No I dont believe it is.

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.


Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.

No thanks. Please answer my question here.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

I don't believe prophecy can be twarted.

What you may or may not believe is irrelevant in a sub-forum dedicated to debate. Evidence is what is needed here. Your claim of what you believe is evidence only that you claim to believe something. It isn't evidence that your belief is valid. In fact, it is perfectly useless here.


Tcg

No I dont believe it is.

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.


Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.

No thanks. Please answer my question here.


Tcg

As I said I already did (see above). Please support your claim. This is a debate forum if you make a claim be prepared for a request for evidence to support it.


Do you have any?

[Tcg]

I don't believe prophecy can be twarted.

What you may or may not believe is irrelevant in a sub-forum dedicated to debate. Evidence is what is needed here. Your claim of what you believe is evidence only that you claim to believe something. It isn't evidence that your belief is valid. In fact, it is perfectly useless here.


Tcg

No I dont believe it is.

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.


Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.

No thanks. Please answer my question here.


Tcg

As I said I already did (I did, see above). Please support your claim.

What claim are you suggesting I need to support? Oh, and please answer here rather than editing your previous claims.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

I don't believe prophecy can be twarted.

What you may or may not believe is irrelevant in a sub-forum dedicated to debate. Evidence is what is needed here. Your claim of what you believe is evidence only that you claim to believe something. It isn't evidence that your belief is valid. In fact, it is perfectly useless here.


Tcg

No I dont believe it is.

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.


Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.

No thanks. Please answer my question here.


Tcg

As I said I already did (I did, see above). Please support your claim.

What claim are you suggesting I need to support? Oh, and please answer here rather than editing your previous claims.


Tcg

If you dont remember your own claims may I suggest you re-read your posts and commit them to memory. I cannot help you with that.

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #163]
Yeah, heres a main obstacle that the OP chooses to ignore. Mainstream christianity will never give that prophecy can be thwarted. Yet the OP wants an explanation of how Satan THWARTS PROPHECY IN CONTEXT WITH MAINSTREAM CHRISTIANITY.

This is far from rational. OP accepts only an impossible to give answer. But didnt write so in the OP.

[Tcg]

What you may or may not believe is irrelevant in a sub-forum dedicated to debate. Evidence is what is needed here. Your claim of what you believe is evidence only that you claim to believe something. It isn't evidence that your belief is valid. In fact, it is perfectly useless here.


Tcg

No I dont believe it is.

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.


Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.

No thanks. Please answer my question here.


Tcg

As I said I already did (I did, see above). Please support your claim.

What claim are you suggesting I need to support? Oh, and please answer here rather than editing your previous claims.


Tcg

As I said I already did (see above). Please support your claim. This is a debate forum if you make a claim be prepared for a request for evidence to support it.


Do you have any?

And I asked you to answer what claim you are claiming I need to support. Can you answer that question? It's not terrible complex.

Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

And I asked you to answer what claim you are claiming I need to support. Can you answer that question? It's not terrible complex.

Tcg

I am not here to help you follow the contents of your own posts ....will you support your claim yes or no?

[Tcg]

What specifically is it that you don't believe?


Tcg

(See edit above)

No thanks. Please answer my question.




Tcg

I already did. I invite you go back and re-read our exchange.

No thanks. Please answer my question here.


Tcg

As I said I already did (I did, see above). Please support your claim.

What claim are you suggesting I need to support? Oh, and please answer here rather than editing your previous claims.


Tcg

As I said I already did (see above). Please support your claim. This is a debate forum if you make a claim be prepared for a request for evidence to support it.


Do you have any?

And I asked you to answer what claim you are claiming I need to support. Can you answer that question? It's not terrible complex.

Tcg

I know what I wrote but your questions seem to indicate you dont. Will you support upyour clakm yes or no?

I indeed know what you wrote. Oddly you refuse to explain what claim it is you think I need to support. Why is that?


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Oddly you refuse to explain what claim it is you think I need to support. Why is that?


Tcg

Oddly you refuse to support your claim, why is that? I am not here to help you follow the contents of your own posts if you feel unable to remember or locate what you say feel free to reread your contributions.

Now, will you support your claim?