Bible is on no account an objective book !!!

[The Nice Centurion]

If bible was written / inspired by a god, it cant be more objective than a book Doctor Doom would write about his achievements.
And bibles references to Satan can be no more objective than Doc Dooms references to Reed Richards would be.

If bible is written by Jewish humans, it can be no more objective than a book about Doctor Doom written by Latverian people would be.

Lets talk about that. Am I right, or am I wrong?

If the latter, why?

[Miles]

Considering the depraved and ugly picture the Bible paints of god; his obsession with sex and killing innocent people, to cite two examples, he would have to be a psychologically adrift to admit he wrote such things yest still expect to be worshiped, venerated, and loved. So I cast my vote for the Bible being concocted and written by Hebrews and Greeks---god is out of the picture.

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[JehovahsWitness]

Considering the depraved and ugly picture the Bible paints of god; his obsession with sex and killing innocent people, to name two examples, he would have to be a psychologically adrift to admit he wrote such things yest still expect to be worshiped, venerated, and loved. So I cast my vote for the Bible being concocted and written by Hebrews and Greeks---no god involved whatsoever.

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I disagree, the bible paints a picure of a loving and generous God that acts with kindness and wisdom.


JW

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[The Nice Centurion]

Considering the depraved and ugly picture the Bible paints of god; his obsession with sex and killing innocent people, to name two examples, he would have to be a psychologically adrift to admit he wrote such things yest still expect to be worshiped, venerated, and loved. So I cast my vote for the Bible being concocted and written by Hebrews and Greeks---no god involved whatsoever.

.

I disagree, the bible paints a picure of a loving and generous God that act with kindness and wisdom.


JW

Thanks be to both of thee for contributing, but thou avoided my question for debate like a hot lron (Mask of Doom) !

[The Nice Centurion]

Considering the depraved and ugly picture the Bible paints of god; his obsession with sex and killing innocent people, to cite two examples, he would have to be a psychologically adrift to admit he wrote such things yest still expect to be worshiped, venerated, and loved.

What then are the church ministers, who say a god wrote such things yet still expect their congregation to worship, venerate, and love him ?

[1213]

If bible was written / inspired by a god, it cant be more objective than a book Doctor Doom would write about his achievements.

Why? Why do you think God can't be objective?

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to 1213 in post #6]
All comes from or narrates about an unproven being with self delusions of grandeur and a cowarldy fear of iron and rivaling gods stronger than him, who tortures his pet humans while they struggle for a living on flat earth.

Why do you think bible god to be objective ?

And what in the bible has an objective narrative ?

[RightReason]

[Replying to The Nice Centurion in post #7]

Why do you think bible god to be objective ?

If the object is God, and God is Truth (as is Christian teaching). And the Bible is God writing about Himself or guiding others to write what He wants them to, then the process is objective (factual/real/fair). To believe otherwise would be ilogical.

I’m not sure how an all just and all loving God could be anything but objective. Being all just requires not exercising subjective personal prejudice over facts/truth. It would be contrary to the very definition of the Christian God for God to be anything but objective.

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to RightReason in post #8]
Truth is not objective, there are many sides to a truth.
It is gods truth here and therefore not objective.
It gets far worse when a personal being sees himself as incernated truth. That is the same hot air as Doctor Doom seeing himself as "Doom"!

Love is not objective, (Compare the love of a pedophilian for a kid he rapes, to the love of a fat woman for ice cream.) and anyway it would have no saying in the matter of being able to objectively writing some book!

[RightReason]

[Replying to The Nice Centurion in post #9]

Truth is not objective, there are many sides to a truth.

Is that true?

Your statement is self-contradicting.

Joe: Truth is not objective.
Bill: Is that objectively true, or your subjective opinion?

Joe: There are many sides to a truth.
Bill: So, truth can be objective?

It is gods truth here and therefore not objective.

Christians believe God is Truth itself. Therefore, it can’t be anything but objective.

It gets far worse when a personal being sees himself as incernated truth. That is the same hot air as Doctor Doom seeing himself as "Doom"!

Unless of course the being IS Truth. Because then that is awesome and what we actually all already know to be true. It’s why we can even have this conversation about Truth. If there weren’t some external objective standard on which everything is judged, then nothing matters -- AND we wouldn’t live the way we do every day of our lives, as if Truth does exist and does matter. It is why we can demand justice and fairness and get outraged when 10 year olds get raped.

Love is not objective, (Compare the love of a pedophilian for a kid he rapes, to the love of a fat woman for ice cream.)

You are comparing apples and oranges. Sex or lust is not love. Loving ice cream is also not love. There are different types of love. There is agape, eros, etc. And really a topic for another discussion, but it can be argued that Love is in fact objective, just like beauty is objective. And the cool part is we all know it when we see it.

anyway it would have no saying in the matter of being able to objectively writing some book!

If the author is Truth, my guess is He not only can be objective, but he is objectivity itself.