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Do you have a soul?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:00 pm Do you have a soul?
Because of how the word has been bandied about here I'm going to need a definition. Whatcha got?

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Wootah wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:00 pm Do you have a soul?
If you are referring to some immaterial component of myself, then, no, I do not believe that I have one.
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Miles wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:02 pm
Wootah wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:00 pm Do you have a soul?
Because of how the word has been bandied about here I'm going to need a definition. Whatcha got?

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Do you have a mind?
Do you have a soul?
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Some possibly acceptable definitions here:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soul

Perhaps our OP could confirm which is closest to his meaning for this debate.

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Diagoras wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:18 pm Some possibly acceptable definitions here:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soul

Perhaps our OP could confirm which is closest to his meaning for this debate.
Do you have an arm?
Do you have a leg?
Do you have a brain?
Do you have a mind?
Do you have a soul?
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William wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:10 pm [Replying to Wootah in post #6]

Do you have a soul?
Of course.
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Wootah wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:04 pm
Miles wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:02 pm
Wootah wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:00 pm Do you have a soul?
Because of how the word has been bandied about here I'm going to need a definition. Whatcha got?

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Do you have an arm?
Do you have a leg?
Do you have a brain?
Do you have a mind?
Do you have a soul?
I can point to and define an arm a leg and a brain. I am also sure of the mind, though I'd be struggling to explain how it works, but a soul, I cannot demonstrate or even explain what it's supposed to be. I can't do any more than that. Can anyone else, apart from referring to an admitted universal human belief in it?

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Wootah wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:00 pm Do you have a soul?
The one substance from which all this world is made of is the inert energy. If you know this point, you will know that every item of this creation is just basically inert energy only. Even the non-inert awareness is also basically inert energy only because awareness is a specific work form of inert energy (produced from digested food) generated in the functioning nervous system.

Transfer of external information to the brain is done by the vehicles called neurons, which are electrical pulses and this form of work is called awareness. By knowing that the basic material of this world is inert energy only, you will know that every item of this world is a form of inert energy only.

Your knowledge will be this much only and not anything extra. By knowing that this world is basically inert energy, you will not know all the mechanisms of the interactions among various items of the creation, which are various branches of scientific knowledge. Inert energy has no such unimaginable power to make you omniscient. But, if you know that the ultimate cause of this creation is unimaginable God (Parabrahaman), you may become omniscient by the grace of the unimaginable God.

Ātman means soul or a person in general. It refers to the human being that is made of inert energy along with matter and awareness. Matter and awareness are different forms of inert energy alone. Hence, ātman basically means the all pervading inert energy that has materialized into matter and which also gets converted into a special form called awareness. Ātman is creation and not the Creator.

Of course, when the Creator (unimaginable God) merges with an energetic being or a human being, that particular Ātman is also God or the Creator. But you cannot call every soul God. Monarchy is bad and democracy is good in politics or worldly life (pravṛtti), but not in spiritual knowledge. Every soul is not God, but it is also equally wrong to say that no soul is God. One or very few souls become God by the will of God alone and not by the will and effort of any soul.

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