Is God evil?

[Compassionist]

There are many verses in the Bible about God's predestination. https://www.openbible.info/topics/predestination Why would a good God predestine anyone to do evil? Surely, a good God would predestine all to do good? Does the existence of evil prove that God is evil? Surely, a good God would have made all living things to be autotrophs instead of making some autotrophs, some herbivores, some carnivores, some omnivores, and some parasites? Here are some examples of evil events which caused or are causing suffering, deaths, and injustices:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... death_toll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_g ... death_toll
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter

[JoeyKnothead]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #149

This site is a great example of gods being reflective of their promoters. I look at the loving and caring theists, and worship their gods. Then I look at the hateful theists, and spit on theirs.

Really? I like to think of myself as a loving, caring theist and about all I can recall you responding to my concept of God with is snarky skepticism, which I wouldn't call worship.

Have I given you some reason to lump me into the other theist camp?

Oh heck no.

Snarky skepticism is just my default.

I have me no problem with you and your god.

[JoeyKnothead]

Thanks for the chain of quoted responses.
Very funny

Just have fun. Too much seriousness is unhealthy.

[AquinasForGod]

There are many verses in the Bible about God's predestination. https://www.openbible.info/topics/predestination Why would a good God predestine anyone to do evil? Surely, a good God would predestine all to do good? Does the existence of evil prove that God is evil? Surely, a good God would have made all living things to be autotrophs instead of making some autotrophs, some herbivores, some carnivores, some omnivores, and some parasites? Here are some examples of evil events which caused or are causing suffering, deaths, and injustices:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... death_toll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_g ... death_toll
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter

This is not the church's doctrine on predestination. God doesn't predestine us to do good or evil. God predestines us to act according to our nature, which is to choose what we want.

[William]

I have decided to not be an Agnostic Atheist anymore. I have become just an Agnostic. I can't decide if God is imaginary or real. I also can't decide if God is good or evil. I also can't decide if solipsism is true or if dualism is true or if monism is true or if materialism is true or if idealism is true or if naive realism is true. I wish I could know for sure what exists and what does not exist. I miss the comfort of being religious but experience too much cognitive dissonance to return to religion. It's a Catch-22. I have studied the top 12 religions and can't decide if any of them is at all true. I wish I was never conceived. I find life too hard.

I watched this video
about whether the past and the future exist. I am so confused by it all.

It's normal to feel overwhelmed and uncertain about life's big questions, and it sounds like you are going through a difficult time.


I understand how you're feeling. It can be difficult to navigate big questions and uncertainty, but it's okay to feel that way.

It sounds like you have been through a lot of research and introspection. That's a courageous and thoughtful process, even if it hasn't led to clarity yet.

It's okay to feel conflicted about these questions and to take your time figuring things out. There's no rush to find answers.

It's important to remember that everyone's journey is different and that it's okay to not have all the answers.

[Thomas123]

Compassionist: 'I miss the comfort of being religious but experience too much cognitive dissonance to return to religion. It's a Catch-22. I have studied the top 12 religions and can't decide if any of them is at all true. I wish I was never conceived. I find life too hard '

Thomas123: I had to give up my hobby for health reasons a while back. It almost broke me, C.
Religion is a human phenomena and if you are drawn to it, then walk away from it with petulant reluctance.

Your post struck a chord with me, and then this lot came to mind. Just have a quick read about them, if you like.

Dualism within a God concept will keep anyone awake, not just you.
Thanks!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religion ... /god.shtml

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism

[kjw47]

There are many verses in the Bible about God's predestination. https://www.openbible.info/topics/predestination Why would a good God predestine anyone to do evil? Surely, a good God would predestine all to do good? Does the existence of evil prove that God is evil? Surely, a good God would have made all living things to be autotrophs instead of making some autotrophs, some herbivores, some carnivores, some omnivores, and some parasites? Here are some examples of evil events which caused or are causing suffering, deaths, and injustices:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... death_toll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_g ... death_toll
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter

The only thing predestined is Gods will. Only those who twist what was said think mortal lives are predestined. 2Peter 3:9--God doesnt want any to perish but for all to be repentent. That would be a deceiving statement if one was already predestined. Run from those who teach lives are predestined, they do not know God.

[brunumb]

The only thing predestined is Gods will. Only those who twist what was said think mortal lives are predestined. 2Peter 3:9--God doesnt want any to perish but for all to be repentent. That would be a deceiving statement if one was already predestined. Run from those who teach lives are predestined, they do not know God.

No one knows God, even those who purport to speak on his belief. If this omnipotent being truly doesn't want anyone to perish, it is perfectly within his power to ensure that everyone is able to make an informed decision regarding his existence. Sadly, no sign of that happening.

[kjw47]

The only thing predestined is Gods will. Only those who twist what was said think mortal lives are predestined. 2Peter 3:9--God doesnt want any to perish but for all to be repentent. That would be a deceiving statement if one was already predestined. Run from those who teach lives are predestined, they do not know God.

No one knows God, even those who purport to speak on his belief. If this omnipotent being truly doesn't want anyone to perish, it is perfectly within his power to ensure that everyone is able to make an informed decision regarding his existence. Sadly, no sign of that happening.

He gave all free will. One must choose out of love and respect for him to listen and apply his advice. Which benefits those who do that.

[brunumb]

He gave all free will. One must choose out of love and respect for him to listen and apply his advice. Which benefits those who do that.

How does one choose to love a being that one does not believe exists?

[kjw47]

He gave all free will. One must choose out of love and respect for him to listen and apply his advice. Which benefits those who do that.

How does one choose to love a being that one does not believe exists?

Why bother speaking in a sight like this if you do not believe he exists. Just to be a terrorist?