Do Christian babies all gain entry to Heaven?

[oldbadger]

This my question:-

If a Christian infant dies, will it automatically gain entry to Heaven?

[JehovahsWitness]

She didn't have them "all at once" so why would she will be given them all back "all at once"?

If people don't have to be resurrected all at the same time, that pretty much solves that, and the only other good objection is solved if you don't think most adults will be saved.

I'm sorry Purple, I don't follow that last comment ...

Don't get me wrong... the bible doesn't give details about the order or rollout of the resurrection (I'm just speculating here) but God is a God of order and scripture does say the new world will be a place without suffering. A chaotic and disorganised ressurrection would logically result in a measure of distress with resources being overwhelmed, too many people at one time needing instruction and, as you pointed out, babies without enough parents.

If we imperfect humans can see the potential problems of a disorganised and badly planned resurrection, I just figure God can also and would avoid any problems.


JW

[Purple Knight]

I'm sorry Purple, I don't follow that last comment ...

The other good objection being that if there are a lot of wicked people, but babies can't be wicked, the good people resurrected be overwhelmed.

Don't get me wrong... the bible doesn't give details about the order or rollout of the resurrection (I'm just speculating here) but God is a God of order and scripture does say the new world will be a place without suffering. A chaotic and disorganised ressurrection would logically result in a measure of distress with resources being overwhelmed, too many people at one time needing instruction and, as you pointed out, babies without enough parents.

If we imperfect humans can see the potential problems of a disorganised and badly planned resurrection, I just figure God can also and would avoid any problems.

What would also avoid any problems is if everyone had a body that was capable of self-care.

The vast majority of problems in the world are solved without issue (and without even really needing "solving" per se) if people simply forgo the nasty, wicked things people do. There wouldn't be the free speech vs authoritarianism debate anymore, because nobody wants to lie, hurt, or cancel others with speech. And on the other side, nobody wants to feign offence to get people punished, either. Without liars, sadists, control freaks and power trippers, this issue just dies.

There is that tiny minority of actual problems though, and even most of those are solved if people just help one another.

And yes let's assume God is not a poor planner but a good one. The question is, does that require God to modify peoples' bodies at all?

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #127]

"For God so loved the world, that he didn't indulge in ridiculous charades and mind games but revealed himself unambiguously to all so that they could believe in him and not perish, but have everlasting life."

Who are you quoting?

[brunumb]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #127]

"For God so loved the world, that he didn't indulge in ridiculous charades and mind games but revealed himself unambiguously to all so that they could believe in him and not perish, but have everlasting life."

Who are you quoting?

Not quoting, just 'fixing' that particular passage from John as a suggestion of what might have been more useful to humanity.

[JehovahsWitness]

I'm sorry Purple, I don't follow that last comment ...

The other good objection being that if there are a lot of wicked people, but babies can't be wicked, the good people resurrected be overwhelmed.

Overwhelmed by ...?

[oldbadger]

This my question:-

If a Christian infant dies, will it automatically gain entry to Heaven?

If any infant believes in Jesus Christ as their Savior, they will gain everlasting life in the Kingdom of God:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

Whosoever would include infants. Realistically, the answer is no.

<============== Here is how deceased infants may inherit the Kingdom of God ===================>

All deceased nonbelievers will be resurrected a thousand years after the Second Coming as humans once again, and face judgment.

Deceased infants will be included in this group. The resurrected infants will grow up, be taught the good news, and make their personal decision to believe or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.

Clever........... Join us, believe and obey and you can exist forever. Reject us and you will suffer the agonies of eternal hellfire.
As primitive belief system go, this one worked rather well. But babies and infants....... ?

Jesus said :- Mark {9:36} And he took a child, and set him in the midst of them: and when he had taken him in his arms, he said unto them, {9:37} Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me:

It looks as if Christianity just ignores what it's God tells. No?

[Purple Knight]

I'm sorry Purple, I don't follow that last comment ...

The other good objection being that if there are a lot of wicked people, but babies can't be wicked, the good people resurrected could be overwhelmed.

Overwhelmed by ...?

Numbers of babies. But if very few people are truly wicked, it wouldn't matter.

[JehovahsWitness]

Overwhelmed by ...?

Numbers of babies. But if very few people are truly wicked, it wouldn't matter.

Yes, few people are truly wicked. And of those truly wicked , the few that had babies that died before adulthood will not overwhelm the adults resurrected (or born ghat grow to adulthood ) during the thousand year millennium rule of Christ. The bible doesn't give all the details but it gives enough detail to conclude things will be well managed , organised and joyful.

[JehovahsWitness]

...The resurrected infants will grow up, be taught the good news, and make their personal decision to believe or reject Jesus as their Savior ....

Clever.....

I think so. I agree with Myth on this. (And I don't believe in hell, so no need to raise the issue of eternal torment).

[JehovahsWitness]

And yes let's assume God is not a poor planner but a good one. The question is, does that require God to modify peoples' bodies at all?

Well we will all (eventually) be perfectly fit, if you call that modifying our bodies then I suppose so ... the human body is already designed to renew its cells, so theoretically we should already be living forever. I would like to be a little taller but I think the bodies we have are more or less those we will have for eternity; blemishes, imperfections and of course handicaps removed.



JW