Wootah wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:38 am
Tcg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:42 pm
Proof? In a subforum where the Bible is
not considered authoritative? Of course not. Your Bible quotes provide nothing of value. This is of course true especially in this subforum where the guidelines have been ignored and everywhere else the Bible is quoted as evidence.
Tcg
I am not asking you to take the verses as the word of God in this forum. But within the book called the Bible do you see any connection between the verses I posted and within the book called the Bible do you think the book is calling Jesus God at this point? If it is not a topic of interest move to another one please.
If we were discussing Harry Potter and whether Snape was a good or bad guy you would look at the evidence within the text like we are doing. No need to worry for you if it is actually true. If I was not interested in the question on Snape being good and evil I wouldn't post in the thread and waste the people enjoying the website's time.
But to be clear I am not in this thread arguing the texts prove Jesus is God of the real universe. That would be in the wrong forum.
I see no connection. Genesis has a garden described roughly as the world of Egypt to Mesopotamia (1) and no arboreal lampstands mentioned. Trees are there, but unlike the trees of Valinor, they do not appear to provide illumination.
By Revelation, All that area is part of the Roman Empire, the Churches are not even the (later) main ones but 7 local brick boxes with a few fanatics in them. I see no garden, but only churches symbolised as lampstands. I see no connection to trees or to Eden. Please put us right, if you can. Given that a rather contrived twist was concocted to make Snape a hero (the Problems don't help) you at least need to indicate the evidence that he targetted Harry because he was on Voldemort's side, even if that is all cover - up. I don't see the connection of Revelation to Eden even without a case that it all means something else.
Off you go
(1) Gen 2.8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.[e] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.