1213 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:07 pm
You left out the bit about the Marys running into Jesus ...
Matthew 28. 8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”
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I had also Matt 28:8. And it is interesting why do you claim Marys run into Jesus, when it says "the women hurried away". It is possible that the other Marry went different path, as John suggests.
You did not have it, but let's say it was there. It contradicts John who says that Mary (and the one with her) "We" do not know where they have laid him. You know this, clearly as you try to explain this with the women splitting up. This is 'making stuff up' as the Bible says no such thing, and Luke (24.10) who heard the angelic explanation and she and the others explained all this to the apostles - it says, which you also left out.
You may go round in denialist (and self contradictory) circles as much as you like, the more you evade and deny, the worse your case looks and the more I invite other Bible apologists to wonder "Is that what I sound like?"
Here is the relevant bit of what you posted:
Matt.28:1 But after the sabbaths, at the dawning of the first of the sabbaths, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the grave.
(Mark. 16:3 And they said to themselves, Who will roll away the stone from the door of the tomb for us?)
(Luke 24:1 But on the first of the sabbaths, while still very early, they came on the tomb, carrying spices which they prepared; and some were with them.)
Matt.28:2 And, behold! A great earthquake occurred! For descending from Heaven and coming near, an angel of the Lord rolled away the stone from the door and was sitting on it.
Matt.28:3 And his face was as lightning and his clothing white as snow.
Matt.28:4 And those keeping guard were shaken from the fear of him, and they became as dead.
Note! Apparently, the earthquake and rolling of the stone was seen only by the guards, not the women that vent to the tomb.
Mark. 16:4 And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back; for it was very large.
Luke 24:2 And they found the stone having been rolled away from the tomb.
John:20:1 But on the first of the week, Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, darkness yet being on it . And she saw the stone had been removed from the tomb.
John:20:2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and said to them, They took away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they laid Him.
Note! Apparently, Mary left the tomb, while other women stayed at the tomb.
Luke 24:3 And going in, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
Mark. 16:5 And entering into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, having been clothed in a white robe. And they were much amazed.
Luke 24:4 And it happened, as they were perplexed about this, even behold, two men in shining clothing stood by them.
Luke 24:5 And they becoming terrified, and bowing their faces to the earth, they said to them, Why do you seek the living with the dead?
Matt.28:5 But answering, the angel said to the women, You must not fear, for I know that you seek Jesus who has been crucified.
Matt.28:6 He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord was lying.
(Mark. 16:6 But He said to them, Do not be amazed. You seek Jesus the Nazarene who has been crucified. He was raised. He is not here. See the place where they put Him?)
(Luke 24:6 He is not here, but was raised. Remember how He spoke to you, yet being in Galilee,)
Luke 24:7 saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and to be crucified, and the third day to rise again.
Luke 24:8 And they remembered His words.
7 And going quickly say to His disciples that He was raised from the dead. And behold! He goes before you into Galilee. You will see Him there. Behold! I told you.
Mark. 16:7 But go, say to the disciples and to Peter, He goes before you into Galilee. You will see Him there, even as He told you.
Matt.28:8 And going away from the tomb quickly, with fear and great joy, they ran to report to His disciples.
Mark. 16:8 And going out quickly, they fled from the tomb. And trembling and ecstasy took hold of them. And they told no one, not a thing, for they were afraid.
Note!, some think that this means they never told about the matter to anyone ever. If that would be the case, we would not have this story. That is why it is reasonable to think they only didn’t tell on their way about it.
John:20:3 Then Peter and the other disciple went out and came to the tomb.
John:20:4 And the two ran together, and the other disciple ran in front more quickly than Peter and came first to the tomb.
John:20:5 And stooping down, he saw the linens lying; however, he did not go in.
John:20:6 Then Simon Peter came following him, and went into the tomb and saw the linens lying.
John:20:7 And the grave cloth which was on His head was not lying with the linens, but was wrapped up in one place by itself.
John:20:8 Therefore, then the other disciple also entered, he having come first to the tomb, even he saw and believed.
John:20:9 For they did not yet know the Scripture, that it was necessary for Him to rise from the dead.
John:20:10 Then the disciples went away again to themselves.
Sure you have Mary supposedly running away on her own (John) but where is there running into Jesus on th way to the disciples? Where is Luke saying Mary Magdalene and the others telling all these things? Where is Mary saying 'We' do not know where they have laid him? You have left out the contradictions and claimed later you had them all in.
There are terms we aren't supposed to use here, but it should be clear what you are doing to maintain your denialist case that there are no contradictions or they can be explained. The fact that you leave them out shows they are contradictions, and terminal ones, too, and that you say they were in there where you obviously make an effort to leave them out is the epitome of denial and making the Bible say what you want, not what it actually says.
You are by no means the only one doing this. On my Other board a poster pasted all of the text about doubting Thomas, and said (with no explanation or case) "There is no contradiction". Faithbased denial of everything and inventing stuff to get over problems is par for the course, but I have rately seen a more egregious example than you editing the Bible to suit yourself and then denying you'd done that.
You are doing a grand job for the atheist case.
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you give yourself away here 
