Jesus is God and Why !

[Brightfame52]

Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

[Brightfame52]

Jesus is God because HE Has Life within Himself within the Divine Essence with the Father Jn 5 26,21

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.


Jesus gives life which only God can do Deut 32 39

See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

1 Sam 2 6

The Lord killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to Brightfame52 in post #10]

“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.

Good post, cleopas!

Since all mankind is appointed once to die, Jesus' first appointed death is not what saves us. We still suffer our first appointed death. So the wages of sin is not our first death, but our second possible everlasting death upon being cast into the lake of fire:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

What saves us from our possible second death in the lake of fire is that Jesus lived a sinless human life under the Old Testament Covenant between God and the Israelites, and then offered His just inheritance of everlasting life earned under that covenant to those sinful humans who believe in Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17)

What do believers inherit? Everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And upon inheriting everlasting life, we are immune to the second or any death!

Thus, under the New Testament Covenant, salvation is no longer linked to sin:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Salvation simply becomes a gift of God through Jesus Christ:

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

And all we have to do is accept it!

[Capbook]

[Replying to Brightfame52 in post #10]

“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.

Good post, cleopas!

Since all mankind is appointed once to die, Jesus' first appointed death is not what saves us. We still suffer our first appointed death. So the wages of sin is not our first death, but our second possible everlasting death upon being cast into the lake of fire:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

What saves us from our possible second death in the lake of fire is that Jesus lived a sinless human life under the Old Testament Covenant between God and the Israelites, and then offered His just inheritance of everlasting life earned under that covenant to those sinful humans who believe in Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17)

What do believers inherit? Everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And upon inheriting everlasting life, we are immune to the second or any death!

Thus, under the New Testament Covenant, salvation is no longer linked to sin:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Salvation simply becomes a gift of God through Jesus Christ:

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

And all we have to do is accept it!

May I know what should we accept to obtain salvation?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #493]

I believe that Jesus' death is what will save us, if we accept it. There is no reason to think that his death does not save us.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to Brightfame52 in post #10]

“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.

Good post, cleopas!

Since all mankind is appointed once to die, Jesus' first appointed death is not what saves us. We still suffer our first appointed death. So the wages of sin is not our first death, but our second possible everlasting death upon being cast into the lake of fire:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

What saves us from our possible second death in the lake of fire is that Jesus lived a sinless human life under the Old Testament Covenant between God and the Israelites, and then offered His just inheritance of everlasting life earned under that covenant to those sinful humans who believe in Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17)

What do believers inherit? Everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And upon inheriting everlasting life, we are immune to the second or any death!

Thus, under the New Testament Covenant, salvation is no longer linked to sin:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Salvation simply becomes a gift of God through Jesus Christ:

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

And all we have to do is accept it!

May I know what should we accept to obtain salvation?

We become heirs unto salvation by accepting Jesus as our Saviour from the wages of our sins.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to Capbook in post #493]

I believe that Jesus' death is what will save us, if we accept it. There is no reason to think that his death does not save us.

Yes there is!!

Jesus was a man:

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5)

And it is appointed unto all men to die once:

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, . . . (Hebrews 9:27)

Jesus' death was His first appointed death.

The wages for mankind's sin is the second death -- not the first:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

Jesus did not pay the wages for our sins by dying His first appointed death. All of us will still die our first death! The wages of sin is the second death!

A human sacrifice is not what saves us. Jesus lived a sinless life and qualified as an heir to everlasting life under the Old Testament Covenant. He then offers His inheritance of everlasting life to those who believe in Him as their Savior under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ ... (Romans 8:16-17)

Salvation is thanks to a gift of God through Jesus Christ, not due to a human sacrifice.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Brightfame52 in post #10]

“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.

Good post, cleopas!

Since all mankind is appointed once to die, Jesus' first appointed death is not what saves us. We still suffer our first appointed death. So the wages of sin is not our first death, but our second possible everlasting death upon being cast into the lake of fire:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

What saves us from our possible second death in the lake of fire is that Jesus lived a sinless human life under the Old Testament Covenant between God and the Israelites, and then offered His just inheritance of everlasting life earned under that covenant to those sinful humans who believe in Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17)

What do believers inherit? Everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And upon inheriting everlasting life, we are immune to the second or any death!

Thus, under the New Testament Covenant, salvation is no longer linked to sin:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Salvation simply becomes a gift of God through Jesus Christ:

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

And all we have to do is accept it!

May I know what should we accept to obtain salvation?

We become heirs unto salvation by accepting Jesus as our Saviour from the wages of our sins.

Can you explain to me Ephesians 2:8-10.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #493]

I believe that Jesus' death is what will save us, if we accept it. There is no reason to think that his death does not save us.

Yes there is!!

Jesus was a man:

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5)

And it is appointed unto all men to die once:

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, . . . (Hebrews 9:27)

Jesus' death was His first appointed death.

The wages for mankind's sin is the second death -- not the first:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

Jesus did not pay the wages for our sins by dying His first appointed death. All of us will still die our first death! The wages of sin is the second death!

A human sacrifice is not what saves us. Jesus lived a sinless life and qualified as an heir to everlasting life under the Old Testament Covenant. He then offers His inheritance of everlasting life to those who believe in Him as their Savior under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ ... (Romans 8:16-17)

Salvation is thanks to a gift of God through Jesus Christ, not due to a human sacrifice.

If Jesus is a man. How do you understand Mark 7:7.
And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'(NKJV)

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Brightfame52 in post #10]

“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.

Good post, cleopas!

Since all mankind is appointed once to die, Jesus' first appointed death is not what saves us. We still suffer our first appointed death. So the wages of sin is not our first death, but our second possible everlasting death upon being cast into the lake of fire:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:8)

What saves us from our possible second death in the lake of fire is that Jesus lived a sinless human life under the Old Testament Covenant between God and the Israelites, and then offered His just inheritance of everlasting life earned under that covenant to those sinful humans who believe in Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17)

What do believers inherit? Everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And upon inheriting everlasting life, we are immune to the second or any death!

Thus, under the New Testament Covenant, salvation is no longer linked to sin:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Salvation simply becomes a gift of God through Jesus Christ:

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

And all we have to do is accept it!

May I know what should we accept to obtain salvation?

We become heirs unto salvation by accepting Jesus as our Saviour from the wages of our sins.

Can you explain to me Ephesians 2:8-10.

It means that no one is saved by the commandments of the Mosaic Law. That Law was abolished when Christ died, finishing his assignment by God to save us from our sins.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #498]

Jesus WAS a man--a perfect man--when he was on Earth. He is much more than a man. He is God's Son and now is in heaven, "the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see." (I Timothy 6:16)