Can Paradox Truly be Predicated Absolutely of God?

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Can Paradox Truly be Predicated Absolutely of God?

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I wish to ponder this question deeply.

It comes across to me by many theists, that God, as the Supreme Being, must be also the Supreme Embodiment of Paradox. But does this hold in terms of the distinct Personality of God? Isn't it an Imposition upon God to view him as Essentially a Paradox?

Certainly human beings are paradoxical, as many other things. We cannot avoid Paradox when speaking of Reality. What I would question however is the degree to which Paradox can encapsulate or absorb a particular conscious entity -- that Paradox essentially supplants the distinct and free Personality of God....

Take the view that God, Because he is the nature of Absolute Self-Sacrificing Love, was destined from all eternity to die a substitutionary death on the Cross. You might say that this was inevitable as well as expected. That God would necessarily go to this great length. But isn't it an imposition on the will of God to think this way? Couldn't God have been God and not done this? Isn't the fact that God is unconditional in his very nature, point to the lack of such a condition? God is Great. So how can he come down to our level, into the mire of human vice and misery? Self-Sacrifice is one answer, but why should it be the only answer? God should in one sense not be bound by any answer. In that sense I regard God as a mysterious being, and not the non-distinct "summation" of Being.
The Holy Name of Sriman Narayana is transcendentally peaceful. It bestows ultimate liberation and freedom, for it is Narayana Himself. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Narayana Himself. Since it is not contaminated by the material qualities, there is no question of its being involved with illusion. The Name is always liberated and spiritual. It is never conditioned by the laws of material nature. This is because the Name of Narayana and Narayana Himself are identical.

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[Replying to Dimmesdale in post #1]

Namaskaram...

Let us inspire our brothers and sisters :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: What exists? Thought (feminine) and Will (masculine) and Light (good) and Darkness (evil). 4 basic principles. All that is explained in the book - Toward the Light! - here is a good introduction...

https://www.toward-the-light.net/

You can download the book here for free (scroll down on the page)...

https://vandrer-mod-lyset.dk/e-boeger/#page-content

Your location is Vaikuntha Dham? What is that? Do you think Krishna is God? The Supreme Being? I am very interested in Krishna and Radha...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radha_Krishna

Have we found the sources of inspiration...















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Waterfall wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 7:31 am
Your location is Vaikuntha Dham? What is that? Do you think Krishna is God? The Supreme Being? I am very interested in Krishna and Radha...
My location is Vaikuntha Dham. This is the spiritual world, or Kingdom of God. I say it is where I reside because Vaikuntha is in my heart. If God is in your heart there is no separation between you and Him.

Shree Krishna is God Himself, the Eternal Sriman Narayana. Yes, Supreme Being, together with Shree Lakshmi, the Goddess of Fortune.
The Holy Name of Sriman Narayana is transcendentally peaceful. It bestows ultimate liberation and freedom, for it is Narayana Himself. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Narayana Himself. Since it is not contaminated by the material qualities, there is no question of its being involved with illusion. The Name is always liberated and spiritual. It is never conditioned by the laws of material nature. This is because the Name of Narayana and Narayana Himself are identical.

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Namaskaram...
Dimmesdale wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:00 pm
Waterfall wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 7:31 am
Your location is Vaikuntha Dham? What is that? Do you think Krishna is God? The Supreme Being? I am very interested in Krishna and Radha...
My location is Vaikuntha Dham. This is the spiritual world, or Kingdom of God. I say it is where I reside because Vaikuntha is in my heart. If God is in your heart there is no separation between you and Him.

Shree Krishna is God Himself, the Eternal Sriman Narayana. Yes, Supreme Being, together with Shree Lakshmi, the Goddess of Fortune.
Let us inspire our brothers and sisters :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: I found this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaikuntha

https://www.srinarayandham.org/

https://www.srinarayandham.org/lord-sriman-narayan/

https://www.srinarayandham.org/?s=Vaikuntha+Dham

Where is our companion :hug: Are we not like Krishna and Radha...









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Waterfall wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:34 am
Let us inspire our brothers and sisters :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
The best way to inspire is by example. And by our example people should hear about and chant the Lord's Glories.

And that means Chanting Mantra. The Names of Krishna, Govinda, or Hari. These are all names which refer to the same Supreme Being. I chant "AUM Namo Narayanaya" - one of the Highest Names of God.

Or you may chant "Hare Krishna." The Name is the same. What matters is Love and Sincerity in all actions. Let your entire life be a Prayer to God Almighty and then your fellow man. And that way you will see Krishna in Vrndavana, or Narayana in Vaikuntha. More than you would simply by reading wikipedia articles about those real places....
The Holy Name of Sriman Narayana is transcendentally peaceful. It bestows ultimate liberation and freedom, for it is Narayana Himself. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Narayana Himself. Since it is not contaminated by the material qualities, there is no question of its being involved with illusion. The Name is always liberated and spiritual. It is never conditioned by the laws of material nature. This is because the Name of Narayana and Narayana Himself are identical.

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Namaskaram...
Dimmesdale wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:19 pm
Waterfall wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:34 am
Let us inspire our brothers and sisters :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
The best way to inspire is by example. And by our example people should hear about and chant the Lord's Glories.

And that means Chanting Mantra. The Names of Krishna, Govinda, or Hari. These are all names which refer to the same Supreme Being. I chant "AUM Namo Narayanaya" - one of the Highest Names of God.

Or you may chant "Hare Krishna." The Name is the same. What matters is Love and Sincerity in all actions. Let your entire life be a Prayer to God Almighty and then your fellow man. And that way you will see Krishna in Vrndavana, or Narayana in Vaikuntha. More than you would simply by reading wikipedia articles about those real places....
We need some deep thinking :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: Let us inspire our brothers and sisters...







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Waterfall wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:13 am
We need some deep thinking :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: Let us inspire our brothers and sisters...
True. Deep thinking is needed. But about the right things. Otherwise we are lost in thought.

"Religion without philosophy is sentimentality, or sometimes fanaticism. Philosophy without religion is mental speculation."
The Holy Name of Sriman Narayana is transcendentally peaceful. It bestows ultimate liberation and freedom, for it is Narayana Himself. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Narayana Himself. Since it is not contaminated by the material qualities, there is no question of its being involved with illusion. The Name is always liberated and spiritual. It is never conditioned by the laws of material nature. This is because the Name of Narayana and Narayana Himself are identical.

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[Replying to Dimmesdale in post #7]

Namaskaram Dimmesdale :hug:

https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/art ... ar-meaning

What exists? Thought (feminine) and Will (masculine) and Light (good) and Darkness (evil). These 4 "things" existed from eternity. We could call it a beginning or a starting point. How do we get to another state of cosmos? Thought (feminine) and Will (masculine) and Light (good) had to unite? God had to realize himself? God is Light and not Darkness? I would like you to read this and tell me what you think...

https://carstenplougolsen.com/the-truth ... the-light/

Do we have a mission...

https://isha.sadhguru.org/uk/en

https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/sadhguru/mission

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Waterfall wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:53 pm
Namaskaram Dimmesdale :hug:
Haribol Prabhu.
Waterfall wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:53 pm
What exists? Thought (feminine) and Will (masculine) and Light (good) and Darkness (evil). These 4 "things" existed from eternity. We could call it a beginning or a starting point. How do we get to another state of cosmos? Thought (feminine) and Will (masculine) and Light (good) had to unite? God had to realize himself? God is Light and not Darkness?
Yes. Thought is Shakti (Energy of God). God is Awareness and Awareness requires Will, so as to Form Shakti. Shakti is like electricity. It needs a Form like a Computer in order to be utilized. There is Energy (Shakti) and the Lord (Shaktiman - Possessor of Shakti). God is both Male and Female.

There is no Darkness in God, as in evil in the Will. God is the Ever-Pure. Although, you may say evil existed from eternity also, because evil existed in the mind of God as an idea, even prior to Time.

To come to another state of cosmos is to serve others and thereby help them and ourselves REALIZE God within the Heart.... The Goal is to get out of this material entanglement and go back home to the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrndavan). This we do by Grace of Guru and Govinda.

God is so Infinite. God Knows Himself Infinitely. We must realize Ourselves, in Relationship to God.
Waterfall wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:53 pm I would like you to read this and tell me what you think...

https://carstenplougolsen.com/the-truth ... the-light/
I don't have time to dig into details of others' philosophy right now. I only have time to talk/discuss from my point of view. Maybe in the future I can read. Right now it is not current on my mind.
Waterfall wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:53 pmDo we have a mission...
Yes.

"We are here on this planet to love and serve others, in whatever small way we can."

https://isha.sadhguru.org/uk/en

https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/sadhguru/mission

Let us inspire our brothers and sisters...







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Waterfall
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The Holy Name of Sriman Narayana is transcendentally peaceful. It bestows ultimate liberation and freedom, for it is Narayana Himself. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Narayana Himself. Since it is not contaminated by the material qualities, there is no question of its being involved with illusion. The Name is always liberated and spiritual. It is never conditioned by the laws of material nature. This is because the Name of Narayana and Narayana Himself are identical.

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