Why Was Satan . . .

[Miles]

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. . . given power to tempt man, thus leading man into sin and eventually causing him to go to hell?


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Couldn't god have done it without Satan's help?


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[myth-one.com]

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.This is the first resurrection.

This means the people alive during the millenium (including those resurrected during this period") reach perfect life by the end of the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:5 refers to dead people -- "But the rest of the dead".

How can the "people alive during the Millennium" also be the dead people referred to in Rev 20:5 as you claim?

And what is "perfect life"?

[onewithhim]

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.This is the first resurrection.

This means the people alive during the millenium (including those resurrected during this period") reach perfect life by the end of the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:5 refers to dead people -- "But the rest of the dead".

How can the "people alive during the Millennium" also be the dead people referred to in Rev 20:5 as you claim?

And what is "perfect life"?

The dead people referred to in Revelation 20:5 are the ones resurrected into the new system of the Millennial Reign. "Perfect life" is what all people can gain after the Thousand Years, for they will be brought back to perfection (as Adam was when he was created) and will live on like that forever. That is the way people can "come to life."

[myth-one.com]

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.This is the first resurrection.

This means the people alive during the millenium (including those resurrected during this period") reach perfect life by the end of the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:5 refers to dead people -- "But the rest of the dead".

How can the "people alive during the Millennium" also be the dead people referred to in Rev 20:5 as you claim?

And what is "perfect life"?

The dead people referred to in Revelation 20:5 are the ones resurrected into the new system of the Millennial Reign.

Wrong! The ones resurrected into the Millennium Reign were resurrected at the Second Coming.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)

"Perfect life" is what all people can gain after the Thousand Years, for they will be brought back to perfection (as Adam was when he was created) and will live on like that forever. That is the way people can "come to life."

Wrong. Human life will never be "perfect life" because human life dies.

[onewithhim]

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.This is the first resurrection.

This means the people alive during the millenium (including those resurrected during this period") reach perfect life by the end of the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:5 refers to dead people -- "But the rest of the dead".

How can the "people alive during the Millennium" also be the dead people referred to in Rev 20:5 as you claim?

And what is "perfect life"?

The dead people referred to in Revelation 20:5 are the ones resurrected into the new system of the Millennial Reign.

Wrong! The ones resurrected into the Millennium Reign were resurrected at the Second Coming.

That's what I've been saying....those resurrected ones that get resurrected during the Millennial Reign will be so at Christ's second coming, which will usher in the new system of things and the resurrection of the dead. The holy ones that will reign with Christ will be resurrected just before Armageddon and they will come with Christ when he comes. They have the first resurrection.

[onewithhim]

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.This is the first resurrection.

This means the people alive during the millenium (including those resurrected during this period") reach perfect life by the end of the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:5 refers to dead people -- "But the rest of the dead".

How can the "people alive during the Millennium" also be the dead people referred to in Rev 20:5 as you claim?

And what is "perfect life"?

The dead people referred to in Revelation 20:5 are the ones resurrected into the new system of the Millennial Reign.

Wrong! The ones resurrected into the Millennium Reign were resurrected at the Second Coming.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)

"Perfect life" is what all people can gain after the Thousand Years, for they will be brought back to perfection (as Adam was when he was created) and will live on like that forever. That is the way people can "come to life."

Wrong. Human life will never be "perfect life" because human life dies.

Do you not recall that humans are given eternal life upon believing in Christ? John 3:16 says that they will not be destroyed. Billions of people will never die again, after their resurrection, and some now living will never die.

[myth-one.com]

Do you not recall that humans are given eternal life upon believing in Christ?

That is nowhere in the Bible.

John 3:16 says that they will not be destroyed.

No, John 3:16 says believers shall not perish but have everlasting life.

Billions of people will never die again, after their resurrection, and some now living will never die.

You are contradicting yourself. First you said that humans are given eternal life upon believing in Christ, and now you say they will never die after their resurrection.

Which is it?

How do you suppose that believers are given everlasting life??

It is by being born again of the Spirit as a spirit!!

Spiritual bodied beings are the only everlasting beings.

[onewithhim]

Do you not recall that humans are given eternal life upon believing in Christ?

That is nowhere in the Bible.

John 3:16 says that they will not be destroyed.

No, John 3:16 says believers shall not perish but have everlasting life.

Billions of people will never die again, after their resurrection, and some now living will never die.

You are contradicting yourself. First you said that humans are given eternal life upon believing in Christ, and now you say they will never die after their resurrection.

Which is it?

How do you suppose that believers are given everlasting life??

It is by being born again of the Spirit as a spirit!!

Spiritual bodied beings are the only everlasting beings.

I have not contradicted myself. That prerogative belongs to you. I said that there are people now alive that won't die but go on into Paradise where they can live forever. There are many more who will have died but will be resurrected in the Thousand Year Reign back to life on Earth. All these will be able to live forever as long as they are obedient, showing that they love their God and are willing to obey Him.

Spirtual bodies are for only Jesus and his co-rulers, since they will be in the heavenly realm forever. Mortal man needs no spiritual body for they will be living in physical bodies here on Earth. (See Psalm 37: 9-11 and 29; Isaiah 11:6-9; Matthew 5:5.)

[myth-one.com]

Spirtual bodies are for only Jesus and his co-rulers, since they will be in the heavenly realm forever. Mortal man needs no spiritual body for they will be living in physical bodies here on Earth. (See Psalm 37: 9-11 and 29; Isaiah 11:6-9; Matthew 5:5.)

The burial and future resurrection of Christians is described in First Corinthians:

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. (I Corinthians 15:42-45)

This scripture is not complicated.

The Christian body that is sown is corruptible, dishonored, weak, and a natural body. This is the physical body which is buried like a seed, or sown, when we die.

At the resurrection, all deceased Christians are raised up as incorruptible, glorified, powerful, spiritual bodies.

[William]

Spirtual bodies are for only Jesus and his co-rulers, since they will be in the heavenly realm forever. Mortal man needs no spiritual body for they will be living in physical bodies here on Earth. (See Psalm 37: 9-11 and 29; Isaiah 11:6-9; Matthew 5:5.)

The burial and future resurrection of Christians is described in First Corinthians:

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. (I Corinthians 15:42-45)

This scripture is not complicated.

The Christian body that is sown is corruptible, dishonored, weak, and a natural body. This is the physical body which is buried like a seed, or sown, when we die.

At the resurrection, all deceased Christians are raised up as incorruptible, glorified, powerful, spiritual bodies.

This requires explaining in more detail as it appears to contradict the evidence re the known phenomena to do with NDEs (and other type experiences humans actually have).

See more on the evidential scientific study of NDE's




Either "the resurrection" is describing a collective event or it is describing something other than what actually occurs to a human personality when their body expires.

"Spiritual Bodies" are indeed described in NDE study cases, but these are not regarded as being an experience of some future collective event but something which is happening concurrently with the here and now.

Even if it were argued that only Christians are left in the ground until "that day" there are Christians who have had NDE's, there are those who were not Christians and became Christians after they had NDE's, and there are those who continue being non-Christians while still admiring Jesus after they had NDE's.

[onewithhim]

Spirtual bodies are for only Jesus and his co-rulers, since they will be in the heavenly realm forever. Mortal man needs no spiritual body for they will be living in physical bodies here on Earth. (See Psalm 37: 9-11 and 29; Isaiah 11:6-9; Matthew 5:5.)

The burial and future resurrection of Christians is described in First Corinthians:

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. (I Corinthians 15:42-45)

This scripture is not complicated.

The Christian body that is sown is corruptible, dishonored, weak, and a natural body. This is the physical body which is buried like a seed, or sown, when we die.

At the resurrection, all deceased Christians are raised up as incorruptible, glorified, powerful, spiritual bodies.

No, that scripture is referring to the co-rulers with Christ when they change and go to heaven in spirit bodies. They rule over the billions of physical humans on the earth. God's purpose has not changed. He created Adam to live on the earth forever and take care of it. His purpose will succeed. (Genesis: 26-28; Genesis 2: 15) Because Adam dropped the ball, would God change His mind? Why would He? We will take up where Adam left off.

"This is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the true God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it to be inhabited: 'I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.'" (Isaiah 45:18) And humans will take care of it, even though Adam gave up his assignment and his life.

"[Jesus] bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth." (Revelation 5: 9b,10)

"Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for a thousand years." (Revelation 20:6)

Two destinies---the earth and its beauty and benefits for mankind (which will always have physical bodies), and then Heaven where Jesus and his co-rulers in spirit bodies will be guiding those on the earth from heaven.