JESUS IS NOT GOD

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

[Capbook]

What our understanding of the text is our interpretation, and it mostly differs just like yours and Clarke.

But where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say "counterpart of God Almighty"

That's Clarke interpretation of the verse...

Well I don't agree with his interpretation of the verse.

Man's interpretation of God's word always differs that's why there are many denominations.
Even as the Father addressed Jesus as God, interpreted God's word in the contrary.

[JehovahsWitness]

What our understanding of the text is our interpretation, and it mostly differs just like yours and Clarke.

But where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say "counterpart of God Almighty"

That's Clarke interpretation of the verse...

Well I don't agree with his interpretation of the verse.

Man's interpretation of God's word always differs that's why there are many denominations.
...

I agree. Clarke interpretation is manmade interpretation not based on the bible truth but rather on denominational bias.

[Capbook]

What our understanding of the text is our interpretation, and it mostly differs just like yours and Clarke.

But where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say "counterpart of God Almighty"

That's Clarke interpretation of the verse...

Well I don't agree with his interpretation of the verse.

Man's interpretation of God's word always differs that's why there are many denominations.
...

I agree. Clarke interpretation is manmade interpretation not based on the bible truth but rather on denominational bias.

Yours and mine also.
Bible text should be interpreted by another Bible text, just like Psalms 45:6 is in harmony with Heb 1:8, Jewish Messiah in the OT to Jesus in the NT. But some interpret them in contrast to Jews God's people understanding.

[JehovahsWitness]

I agree. Clarke interpretation is manmade interpretation not based on the bible truth but rather on denominational bias.

... and mine also.

Yes, you are correct... yours is also a manmade interpretation. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES on the other hand always let the bible interpret itself.

[Capbook]

I agree. Clarke interpretation is manmade interpretation not based on the bible truth but rather on denominational bias.

... and mine also.

Yes, you are correct... yours is also a manmade interpretation. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES on the other hand always let the bible interpret itself.

Yes yours also, could this means that the primary translator of the NWT was inadequately trained to perform the task of Bible translation also, as he had only twenty-one hours of formal classical Greek training at the University of Cincinnati? Instead of two years or four semesters?

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes ....

If you would like to prove there NWT contains a mistranslation please cite the veres and the Greek and state your case.



JW

[Capbook]

Yes ....

If you would like to prove there NWT contains a mistranslation please cite the veres and the Greek and state your case.



JW

I found this online, link below;
https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/q ... anslation/

It should be noted that Frederick Franz was Raymond Franz’s uncle and one of the WTBTS’ presidents. It is reported that Frederick Franz, the primary translator of the NWT, had only twenty-one hours of formal classical Greek training at the University of Cincinnati[7] and only two hours of Biblical Greek or Koine Greek.[8] This information was provided in Frederick Franz’s 1911 autobiography in which he published his own college transcript.[9] It is important to note that Koine Greek is the language taught in theological seminaries for Biblical studies. The normal study course lasts for two years or four semesters. This means that the primary translator of the NWT was inadequately trained to perform the task of Bible translation.

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes ....

If you would like to prove there NWT contains a mistranslation please cite the veres and the Greek and state your case.


JW

I found this online ...

I am not here to debate a link and I see no verse nor and GREEK in your post. Which verse are you contesting?

[Capbook]

Yes ....

If you would like to prove there NWT contains a mistranslation please cite the veres and the Greek and state your case.


JW

I found this online ...

I am not here to debate a link and I see no verse nor and GREEK in your post. Which verse are you contesting?

I am talking about Frederick Franz that the author of the link found in him.
If you find it as not true then correct it.

[JehovahsWitness]

I am not here to debate a link and I see no verse nor any GREEK in your post. Which verse are you contesting?

I am talking about Frederick Franz ...

I'm not here to debate any human, if you believe there is a bible verse in the NWT that has been mistranslated provide the bible verseand the Greek.