No man has seen God at any time

[Stewardofthemystery]

It is written in John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”

And Jesus said in John 14:6-7
King James Version
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”

So if no man has seen God at any time, how do we reconcile what seems to be a contradiction? When you understand the identity of the Son of God being the very Word of God, then you will understand there is no contradiction.

It is the Word OF God that was made flesh in the man Jesus. And it is BY God’s Word and words that we get to know and see what God the Father is really like, His likes and dislikes. It is by God’s Word and words we get to see and know the will of God the Father.

In this way, by looking at the words and actions of Jesus Christ we get to see and know what The invisible God is really like.

We don’t see the outward image of God in Christ, but rather we see the inward image of God in Jesus Christ, as God was in Christ.

Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

When you understand this mystery then there is a harmony to the text without contradiction.

Peace and God bless

[JehovahsWitness]

True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

Not according to Jesus.

JOHN 17:3

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

can you see the word AND? (remember the illustration of the apple not being the orange?)

[Capbook]

True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

Not according to Jesus.

JOHN 17:3

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

can you see the word AND? (remember the illustration of the apple not being the orange?)

Yes, there are two on the table.
And there are two on the true God.

[JehovahsWitness]

True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

Not according to Jesus Christ .

JOHN 17:3

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

can you see the word AND? (remember the illustration of the apple not being the orange?)

Yes, there are two on the table.
And there are two on the true God.

Not according to Jesus.

[Capbook]

True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

Not according to Jesus.

JOHN 17:3

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

can you see the word AND? (remember the illustration of the apple not being the orange?)

Yes, there are two on the table.
And there are two on the true God.

Not according to Jesus.

But according to 1 John 5:20. "in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."
That eternal life is in the Father's Son Jesus Christ. (1John 5:11)

1 John 5:11
1 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
KJV

[JehovahsWitness]

True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

1 John 5v20 has been interpreted correctly by Jesus Christ himself. See Post 40 viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41625&start=40#p1153803


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True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

1 John 5v20 has been interpreted correctly by Jesus Christ himself. See Post 40 viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41625&start=40#p1153803

"What is said here in John 17:3 of the only true God seems said in opposition to the gods whom the pagans worshipped; not in opposition to Jesus Christ himself, who is called the true God by John, in 1 John 5:20."
( Clarke's )

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True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

1 John 5v20 has been interpreted correctly by Jesus Christ himself. See Post 40 viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41625&start=40#p1153803

...
( Clarke's )

Whatever the reason, his reasons, Jesus is the final word on how to interpret the expression True God. We let the bible be interpreted by Jesus not by Clarke.


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How should 1 John 5:20 be properly understood?
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True God is said to Jesus in 1John5:20.

1 John 5v20 has been interpreted correctly by Jesus Christ himself. See Post 40 viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41625&start=40#p1153803

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Whatever the reason, his reasons, Jesus is the final word on how to interpret the expression True God. We let the bible be interpreted by Jesus not by Clarke.


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Jesus twice testified that the true God is he who has been made known to us in Him. Why should he again add, This is the true God? It applies, indeed, most suitably to Christ;
Some called it tautology.

1 John 5:20
The Arians apply this passage to the Father, as though the Apostle should again repeat that he is the true God. But nothing could be more frigid than such a repetition. It has already twice testified that the true God is he who has been made known to us in Christ, why should he again add, This is the true God? It applies, indeed, most suitably to Christ; for after having taught us that Christ is the guide by whose hand we are led to God, he now, by way of amplifying, affirms that Christ is that God, lest we should think that we are to seek further; and he confirms this view by what is added, and eternal life. (Calvin)

[JehovahsWitness]

HOW SHOULD 1 JOHN 5:20 BE PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD?

1 JOHN 5:20 King James Bible
And we know that [1] the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in [2] his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

John speaks of two different individuals in this passage. One is identified as [1] the Son of God. But there is someone else alluded to also. Notice where John speaks of "his" son. Who has a son called Jesus Christ? Would that not be speaking about Jehovah (YHWH) The Father?

The verses ends speaking about ... [3] This is the true God Who (which of the two aforemention) is "the true God"? would it be the Son or The Father, since both are alluded to in the verse.

ANSWER To understand who the expression "The True God" refers to, we must go to where Jesus himself speaks of the same individual. In his final prayer with his Apostles, Jesus addressed his Father. He said the following words...

JOHN 17:3

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

So we see from Jesus that the expression here "the true god" applies not to the son but to the Father. In the light of Jesus' words it seems the proper understanding of 1 JOHN 5:20 is that Jesus came to help mankind understand the true God, and through Jesus (by means of /in) Jesus we can be in union with YHWH the Father (the true God).

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[Capbook]

HOW SHOULD 1 JOHN 5:20 BE PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD?

1 JOHN 5:20 King James Bible
And we know that [1] the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in [2] his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

John speaks of two different individuals in this passage. One is identified as [1] the Son of God. But there is someone else alluded to also. Notice where John speaks of "his" son. Who has a son called Jesus Christ? Would that not be speaking about Jehovah (YHWH) The Father?

The verses ends speaking about ... [3] This is the true God Who (which of the two aforemention) is "the true God"? would it be the Son or The Father, since both are alluded to in the verse.

ANSWER To understand who the expression "The True God" refers to, we must go to where Jesus himself speaks of the same individual. In his final prayer with his Apostles, Jesus addressed his Father. He said the following words...

JOHN 17:3

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

So we see from Jesus that the expression here "the true god" applies not to the son but to the Father. In the light of Jesus' words it seems the proper understanding of 1 JOHN 5:20 is that Jesus came to help mankind understand the true God, and through Jesus (by means of /in) Jesus we can be in union with YHWH the Father (the true God).

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1 John 5:20
If it refers to God as such, or to the word "true" it would be mere tautology, or a mere truism. The rendering would then be, "That we may know the true God, and we are in the true God: this is the true God, and eternal life." Can we believe that an inspired man would affirm gravely, and with so much solemnity, and as if it were a truth of so much magnitude, that the true God is the true God?

The grammatical construction favors to Jesus. Christ is the immediate antecedent of the pronoun "this". This would be regarded as the obvious and certain construction so far as the grammar is concerned, unless there were something in the thing affirmed which led us to seek some more remote and less obvious antecedent.
( Barnes.)