Holy Spirit power, what is it?

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Holy Spirit power.What’s your take on the following verse? Ephesians 3:20-21, "Unto him that are able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, unto him be glory in the church of Christ Jesus." What is that power? It’s the Holy Spirit's power.

My guess, is "Seven out of every ten who claim to be Christians are without the power of the Holy Spirit?"

Ruffly, two billion people claim to be Christians, covering hundreds of denominations, Catholics being the largest, a billion and a half of them. Catholics are told the Pope, also called the Vicar of Christ and his council are infallible in the doctrines that come forth from their councils. The Vicar of Christ also claims to be in charge until Jesus returns, brushing the Holy Spirit off to the side. Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and others claim the Holy Spirit is not a He, but an it.

Others claim Jesus is not the God of the Old Testament, the Creator of heaven and Earth. And on and on it goes.

Following is one example of a person having the Holy Spirit in them, it’s the story of David and Goliath. Goliath was physically strong, a true giant; and I would suppose, fearful to look at. He overcame his enemies with intimidation and physical strength.

On the other hand, David was small, young, yet un-intimidating, because he carried the sword of the Spirit. This made David greater in every way, he easily overcame Goliath, struck fear into Israel's enemies, and filled his people with amazement. From a shepherd to king with a slingshot and one stone; that's "Holy Spirit Power."

Many have allowed our society, our culture, or even their denomination to restrict them from receiving the power of the Holy Spirit. Salvation comes from God alone, and not from men. We should not be like Ponce de Leon who spent his life looking for the mystical "Fountain of Youth." All he had to do was open up the pages of his Bible.

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[Replying to slowrider in post #11]

The power of the Holy Spirit working in Samson. When he killed the lion with his bare hands, it wasn’t his hair that gave him strength, it was the Holy Spirit. When he killed a thousand Philistines with the jaw-bone of an ass, it was by the power of the Holy Spirit. Because he went with Delilah, a Philistine woman, he disobeyed the LORD. She knew where the power of his strength came from because Samson revealed it to her, and in so doing, she cut his hair, and the Holy Spirit was taken from him.

He then became a slave to his enemies; he was a blind man standing before his enemies in humiliation and without his God. After he was blinded and without his strength, he called out to the LORD, “Remember me and strengthen me.” His prayer was heard, and the power of the Spirit of God entered him, and he pulled down the pillars of the house, and “the house fell upon the lords and all the people (Philistines) that were in it.”

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Judges 6:34, "The Spirit (Holy Spirit) of the LORD came upon Gideon," Compare with,

Verse 36, "And Giedion said unto God (Elohim)," Here Giedion calls the Holy Spirit, God, or Elohim."

[onewithhim]

Holy Spirit power.What’s your take on the following verse? Ephesians 3:20-21, "Unto him that are able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, unto him be glory in the church of Christ Jesus." What is that power? It’s the Holy Spirit's power.

My guess, is "Seven out of every ten who claim to be Christians are without the power of the Holy Spirit?"

Ruffly, two billion people claim to be Christians, covering hundreds of denominations, Catholics being the largest, a billion and a half of them. Catholics are told the Pope, also called the Vicar of Christ and his council are infallible in the doctrines that come forth from their councils. The Vicar of Christ also claims to be in charge until Jesus returns, brushing the Holy Spirit off to the side. Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and others claim the Holy Spirit is not a He, but an it.

Others claim Jesus is not the God of the Old Testament, the Creator of heaven and Earth. And on and on it goes.

The Holy Spirit is truly an "it." It is God's personal force of power, if you will, that gets things done the way Jehovah wants them done. It is His way of maneuvering situations---His "active force." It's like the power in an electric light bulb. That current keeps the light on. Jehovah's Spirit's current keeps the situations going as He wishes them to go. It's like an extension of His hands; it is His will.

How can a Person be "poured out" onto 120 people in the upper room at Pentecost? That is foolish.

Jesus is definitely not the God of the Old Testament, for there are innumerable texts that show the Father interacting with the Messiah, the Son. They are two different Persons.

See Psalm 2:6-9; Psalm 110:1,2; Isaiah 11:1-5; Isaiah 61: 1,2

Look them up and let me know what your thoughts are then.

[Difflugia]

Jesus is definitely not the God of the Old Testament, for there are innumerable texts that show the Father interacting with the Messiah, the Son. They are two different Persons.

You know that the Father and the Son are two different Persons according to the doctrine of the Trinity, right? If you don't, you should. You've been told this before.

The interesting question is if being told again will help you know it tomorrow.

[JehovahsWitness]

What is that power?

EPHESIANS 3: 14, 16 20

14 For this reason I bend my knees to the Father, ...that he may grant you through the abundance* of his glory to be made mighty in the man you are inside,+ with power through his spirit, 17 ...20 Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us

Paul here is speakjng about God's spirit or active force which empowers believers.


JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[onewithhim]

Jesus is definitely not the God of the Old Testament, for there are innumerable texts that show the Father interacting with the Messiah, the Son. They are two different Persons.

You know that the Father and the Son are two different Persons according to the doctrine of the Trinity, right? If you don't, you should. You've been told this before.

The interesting question is if being told again will help you know it tomorrow.

I was a Baptist once and I know what the Trinity is. It doesn't say that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament.

[Difflugia]

I was a Baptist once and I know what the Trinity is. It doesn't say that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament.

There's but one God, composed of three Persons. Jesus is as much God of the Old Testament as he is of the New.

[Peterlag7]

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The religious world does not seem to be able to see the Christ apart from seeing God through their own image. And because so many cannot understand the authority of Jesus Christ is why they believe we must have the authority. I disagree. I do not believe God has given any of this authority to me. I read nowhere where it says "ask in your name" or "all authority has been given unto us on earth and in heaven." But many Christians have been able to tap into this authority from time to time on all kinds of levels even if in most cases they had no idea what was happening or how it works.

All power [delegated authority, implies the ability to make power felt. E.W. Bullinger] is given unto Christ in heaven and in earth.

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[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

The religious world does not seem to be able to see the Christ apart from seeing God through their own image. And because so many cannot understand the authority of Jesus Christ is why they believe we must have the authority. I disagree. I do not believe God has given any of this authority to me. I read nowhere where it says "ask in your name" or "all authority has been given unto us on earth and in heaven." But many Christians have been able to tap into this authority from time to time on all kinds of levels even if in most cases they had no idea what was happening or how it works.

All power [delegated authority, implies the ability to make power felt. E.W. Bullinger] is given unto Christ in heaven and in earth.

Thank you for that mister Peterlag7; Well, put. We can start with the Catholic church and the title given to the Popes of Rome. The Vicar of Christ, claiming to have the authority of Jesus Christ until he returns. As long as they maintain that title (Vicar) any rules or regulations that come from their councils are said to be "Infallible."