With God, nothing is impossible.

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Is Jesus the first being resurrected?

I believe so.

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it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Where does it say Jesus is part of creation?

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...Both image and firstborn are titles of sovereignty and not related to metaphysical doctrines of absolute reality but to ancient conceptions of kingship. So, Jesus is accorded in respect of the created universe that place of honor and sovereignty in the kingdom.

Firstborn: when used as a trope as in Colossians 1:5, concerning Jesus Christ, it means the first, the chief, the head, one highly distinguished, and preeminent, so of Christ, as the beloved Son of God before the creation. It has nothing to do with him being created....

It would help, if that would be what the Bible tells. Unfortunately it is just an interpretation.

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...Both image and firstborn are titles of sovereignty and not related to metaphysical doctrines of absolute reality but to ancient conceptions of kingship. So, Jesus is accorded in respect of the created universe that place of honor and sovereignty in the kingdom.

Firstborn: when used as a trope as in Colossians 1:5, concerning Jesus Christ, it means the first, the chief, the head, one highly distinguished, and preeminent, so of Christ, as the beloved Son of God before the creation. It has nothing to do with him being created....

It would help, if that would be what the Bible tells. Unfortunately it is just an interpretation.

Hmm.

Have you, or are you going to actually look into (research) what placebofactor is saying?

Or are you going to continue with these knee-jerk, no -substance dismissals?

There are many scholarly commentaries on this subject, and if you can pry yourself from WTS theology just for one sec, you may be enlightened.

There is a Greek word for "first created", if this was meant in the context that you (Jehovah's Witnesses) claim it is being used.

Guess what, Paul did not use this Greek word in this context.

But your organization won't tell you this.

There are also many times in the Bible where the word "first born" is used, and it DOESN'T mean "first to be born", or "eldest" or "first in succession".

You'd have to find supplementary scriptures to support your interpretation of Col 1:15, since you cannot rely on that verse alone.

The problem is, you can't find any, as the Bible does not support this ridiculous idea that Jesus was created.

So, you guys hang your hat on one verse that doesn't even mean what you think it means, and you create an entire false doctrine from it.

Bad Bible hermeneutics, and false Biblical doctrine.

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...Both image and firstborn are titles of sovereignty and not related to metaphysical doctrines of absolute reality but to ancient conceptions of kingship. So, Jesus is accorded in respect of the created universe that place of honor and sovereignty in the kingdom.

Firstborn: when used as a trope as in Colossians 1:5, concerning Jesus Christ, it means the first, the chief, the head, one highly distinguished, and preeminent, so of Christ, as the beloved Son of God before the creation. It has nothing to do with him being created....

It would help, if that would be what the Bible tells. Unfortunately it is just an interpretation.

Yes, it is, and a very good one. Why? Because it's the truth.
Can't you see the division and confusion the doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses are causing in the Christian community? Those outside the Christian community mock us saying "They can't even agree on what the Bible teaches."

We teach, "Jesus is God" Witnesses say, "No he isn't."
"The Holy Spirit is a separate entity." Witnesses, "No it's the Father's breath, an "it."
"There is a hell." Witnesses, "No there isn't."
"There is a Trinity." Witnesses, "No there isn't."
'There's an antichrist coming in the future, a man of perdition." Witnesses, "No there isn't."
K.J.B. is a superior text." No, our 4th edition is the best."

And on and on it goes. This is supposed to be a debate forum, but the witnesses have made it a war of words and doctrine zone.

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...Both image and firstborn are titles of sovereignty and not related to metaphysical doctrines of absolute reality but to ancient conceptions of kingship. So, Jesus is accorded in respect of the created universe that place of honor and sovereignty in the kingdom.

Firstborn: when used as a trope as in Colossians 1:5, concerning Jesus Christ, it means the first, the chief, the head, one highly distinguished, and preeminent, so of Christ, as the beloved Son of God before the creation. It has nothing to do with him being created....

It would help, if that would be what the Bible tells. Unfortunately it is just an interpretation.

..."They can't even agree on what the Bible teaches." ...

Luckily everyone can read what the Bible teaches. And we can all agree that it says Jesus is "firstborn". Now, we could leave it as it is, and not add own meaning to it.

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There are also many times in the Bible where the word "first born" is used, and it DOESN'T mean "first to be born", or "eldest" or "first in succession".
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I can accept the idea that it means first in rank. But because it is said "of creation", I understand that means he is part of the creation, the first of creation.

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There are also many times in the Bible where the word "first born" is used, and it DOESN'T mean "first to be born", or "eldest" or "first in succession".
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I can accept the idea that it means first in rank. But because it is said "of creation", I understand that means he is part of the creation, the first of creation.

Then you should also be able to accept the fact that it means first in rank of creation, which means in all of creation, Christ is first in rank.

Not only is it literally the Greek word that Paul used, but it makes sense within context of the following verses, which states that Christ is the CREATOR of all things.

Obviously, the creator of all things would be first in rank (preeminent) over all creation, since all creation owes its existence to him.

Reading comprehension.