"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."

[Athetotheist]

What are we to make of this?




Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)

"He that loveth Me not, keepeth not My sayings. And the Word which you hear is not Mine, but the Fathers who sent Me."
(John 14:24)

[marke]

The cult wants it both ways. When Trump loses, then they want to challenge the law. When he wins, they suddenly become law-abiding, again. Fact is, they don't want to be subject to the law. Hence Trump's description of himself as "King" posting an image of himself with a crown.

He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.

Not like we didn't have warning about this.

Marke: Trump was elected by tens of millions of Americans who were tired of unelected leftist bureaucrats brutally and unjustly ruling over them. Now that Trump is President the leftists want their unjust power back but that does not seem likely to happen in the next few years at least.

I notice that many of them are already regretting those votes, seeing how lawlessly Trump and his underlings are behaving...

https://kfor.com/news/trump-approval-ra ... rm-survey/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 967657007/

Three new national polls released on Wednesday indicate President Donald Trump's approval ratings are edging down slightly since taking over the White House one month ago.

Forty-five percent of voters questioned in a Quinnipiac University survey said they approve of the way Trump is handling his job as president, with 49% disapproving.

That's down from a 46%-43% approval/disapproval in a Quinnipiac poll conducted in late January, during the president's first week back in office following his inauguration.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/surpri ... hite-house

When even Fox News admits he's going underwater in the polls, it's bad.

Marke: Regardless of how many voters support graft and corruption I still support Trump and his staff for rooting out corruption.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #57]

Trump was elected by tens of millions of Americans who were tired of unelected leftist bureaucrats brutally and unjustly ruling over them.

Now those Americans are angrily chewing out their GOP Congress members in town hall meetings for letting Trump turn an unelected billionaire loose on their personal financial and medical records while prices continue to soar despite the promise that they would be brought down immediately.

[The Barbarian]

The cult wants it both ways. When Trump loses, then they want to challenge the law. When he wins, they suddenly become law-abiding, again. Fact is, they don't want to be subject to the law. Hence Trump's description of himself as "King" posting an image of himself with a crown.

He wants to be like Putin and kim, subject to nothing at all.

Not like we didn't have warning about this.

Marke: Trump was elected by tens of millions of Americans who were tired of unelected leftist bureaucrats brutally and unjustly ruling over them. Now that Trump is President the leftists want their unjust power back but that does not seem likely to happen in the next few years at least.

I notice that many of them are already regretting those votes, seeing how lawlessly Trump and his underlings are behaving...

https://kfor.com/news/trump-approval-ra ... rm-survey/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 967657007/

Three new national polls released on Wednesday indicate President Donald Trump's approval ratings are edging down slightly since taking over the White House one month ago.

Forty-five percent of voters questioned in a Quinnipiac University survey said they approve of the way Trump is handling his job as president, with 49% disapproving.

That's down from a 46%-43% approval/disapproval in a Quinnipiac poll conducted in late January, during the president's first week back in office following his inauguration.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/surpri ... hite-house

When even Fox News admits he's going underwater in the polls, it's bad.

Marke: Regardless of how many voters support graft and corruption I still support Trump and his staff for rooting out corruption.

That's like expecting Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz to root out pedophilia.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #57]

Trump was elected by tens of millions of Americans who were tired of unelected leftist bureaucrats brutally and unjustly ruling over them.

Now those Americans are angrily chewing out their GOP Congress members in town hall meetings for letting Trump turn an unelected billionaire loose on their personal financial and medical records while prices continue to soar despite the promise that they would be brought down immediately.

Marke: I don't think there as as many Americans supporting leftist theft, graft, incompetence and corruption as the left tries to convince people. Why has the government been giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to leftists and leftist democrat causes and campaigns? That is inexcusable. Just look at Biden's last minute giveaway of $2 billion dollars to Stacey Abrams from the EPA. Americans want such enrichment of democrat politicians with corrupt government funding schemes to stop.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #64]

I don't think there as as many Americans supporting leftist theft, graft, incompetence and corruption as the left tries to convince people.

Americans certainly don't support theft, graft, incompetence or corruption. That's why Americans are having reactions like these to what they see as theft, graft, incompetence and corruption:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... rcna193164

Consider this, from Rich McCormick:

"If we continue to grow the size of government, and we can't afford it, its going to have shortfalls in your Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,"

....and this, from Glenn Grothman:

Asked whether cuts to Social Security or Medicaid would push him to oppose a GOP spending bill, Grothman said, "Well, certainly if Social Security is cut, and Medicaid, well have to see about that."
("We'll have to see about that" isn't the answer to a yes-or-no question.)

So out of one side of their face they're saying that if they don't reduce spending there will be shortfalls in Social Security and Medicaid, while out of the other side of their face they're hinting at cuts to Social Security and Medicaid to reduce spending.

Do you see the problem there?

Just look at Biden's last minute giveaway of $2 billion dollars to Stacey Abrams from the EPA.

According to usaspending.gov, a database of federal contracts and grants, a program named Power Forward Communities did receive a $2 billion federal grant in April 2024. The grant came from the Environmental Protection Agency's National Clean Investment Fund and was paid out to Power Forward Communities in full at the time of this writing. However, while Abrams is connected to that group, it is through an advisory role for one of its five founding organizations, a nonprofit called Rewiring America. We have asked Power Forward Communities and Abrams' office to confirm her involvement with the program and will update this story if they reply.

Furthermore, there was no indication that DOGE "discovered" the grant. Rather, EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin said on Feb. 13 that his team discovered the funding, which was part of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, and was working to claw it back. Additionally, information about the grant was publicly available on an official website that tracks federal spending as well as the Power Forward Communities website. We have reached out to the EPA for more information and will update this story if they reply.

Given the above, we rate this claim a mixture of truth and undetermined information.

The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 made almost $27 billion available to the EPA for "greenhouse gas- and air pollution-reducing projects" across the U.S. The funding was divided into three programs: the National Clean Investment Fund, the Clean Communities Investment Accelerator and Solar for All.

The $2 billion funding for Power Forward Communities came from the National Clean Investment Fund. According to the EPA, the grant recipients were "establishing national clean financing institutions that deliver accessible, affordable financing for clean technology projects nationwide."

Abrams' connection to Power Forward Communities, as mentioned above, is through Rewiring America, one of the five organizations that leads the program. Rewiring America said via news release in March 2023 that Abrams was joining as senior counsel. According to Abrams' website, she was still working with Rewiring America at the time of this writing.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/2-bil ... ey-abrams/

Americans want such enrichment of democrat politicians with corrupt government funding schemes to stop.

Americans want all enrichment schemes to stop.

Musks so-called Department of Government Efficiency (with the same acronym as the Subcommittee, i.e. DOGE, and the same name as a crypto coin Musk has boosted) is now investigating the same federal agencies whose Inspectors General were investigating Musks companies until they were sacked by the Trump administration last month.
https://wallstreetonparade.com/2025/02/ ... estigator/


And if we're going to talk about incompetence, we have to mention the idiotic email sent out by DOGE ordering federal employees----including employees engaged in sensitive national security work----to submit detailed accounts of what they had been doing.....by email, after all the flap during the 2016 campaign about the danger of compromising national security by email.
https://apnews.com/article/musk-federal ... c50f3699d6


Is this the conflict of interest and reckless incompetence that you're trusting to make things better?

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #64]

I don't think there as as many Americans supporting leftist theft, graft, incompetence and corruption as the left tries to convince people.

Americans certainly don't support theft, graft, incompetence or corruption. That's why Americans are having reactions like these to what they see as theft, graft, incompetence and corruption:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... rcna193164

Consider this, from Rich McCormick:

"If we continue to grow the size of government, and we can't afford it, its going to have shortfalls in your Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,"

....and this, from Glenn Grothman:

Asked whether cuts to Social Security or Medicaid would push him to oppose a GOP spending bill, Grothman said, "Well, certainly if Social Security is cut, and Medicaid, well have to see about that."
("We'll have to see about that" isn't the answer to a yes-or-no question.)

So out of one side of their face they're saying that if they don't reduce spending there will be shortfalls in Social Security and Medicaid, while out of the other side of their face they're hinting at cuts to Social Security and Medicaid to reduce spending.

Do you see the problem there?

Just look at Biden's last minute giveaway of $2 billion dollars to Stacey Abrams from the EPA.

According to usaspending.gov, a database of federal contracts and grants, a program named Power Forward Communities did receive a $2 billion federal grant in April 2024. The grant came from the Environmental Protection Agency's National Clean Investment Fund and was paid out to Power Forward Communities in full at the time of this writing. However, while Abrams is connected to that group, it is through an advisory role for one of its five founding organizations, a nonprofit called Rewiring America. We have asked Power Forward Communities and Abrams' office to confirm her involvement with the program and will update this story if they reply.

Furthermore, there was no indication that DOGE "discovered" the grant. Rather, EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin said on Feb. 13 that his team discovered the funding, which was part of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, and was working to claw it back. Additionally, information about the grant was publicly available on an official website that tracks federal spending as well as the Power Forward Communities website. We have reached out to the EPA for more information and will update this story if they reply.

Given the above, we rate this claim a mixture of truth and undetermined information.

The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 made almost $27 billion available to the EPA for "greenhouse gas- and air pollution-reducing projects" across the U.S. The funding was divided into three programs: the National Clean Investment Fund, the Clean Communities Investment Accelerator and Solar for All.

The $2 billion funding for Power Forward Communities came from the National Clean Investment Fund. According to the EPA, the grant recipients were "establishing national clean financing institutions that deliver accessible, affordable financing for clean technology projects nationwide."

Abrams' connection to Power Forward Communities, as mentioned above, is through Rewiring America, one of the five organizations that leads the program. Rewiring America said via news release in March 2023 that Abrams was joining as senior counsel. According to Abrams' website, she was still working with Rewiring America at the time of this writing.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/2-bil ... ey-abrams/

Americans want such enrichment of democrat politicians with corrupt government funding schemes to stop.

Americans want all enrichment schemes to stop.

Musks so-called Department of Government Efficiency (with the same acronym as the Subcommittee, i.e. DOGE, and the same name as a crypto coin Musk has boosted) is now investigating the same federal agencies whose Inspectors General were investigating Musks companies until they were sacked by the Trump administration last month.
https://wallstreetonparade.com/2025/02/ ... estigator/


And if we're going to talk about incompetence, we have to mention the idiotic email sent out by DOGE ordering federal employees----including employees engaged in sensitive national security work----to submit detailed accounts of what they had been doing.....by email, after all the flap during the 2016 campaign about the danger of compromising national security by email.
https://apnews.com/article/musk-federal ... c50f3699d6


Is this the conflict of interest and reckless incompetence that you're trusting to make things better?

Marke: Trump's appointees are uncovering trillions of dollars of corruption, fraud, theft, and abuse in the entrenched bureaucracy. Billions of dollars of this fraud and abuse is in the form of payments to leftist government officials like Stacey Abrahams and dozens of others, fraud in the form of sending money to leftist causes overseas that have no value to Americans apart from corrupt US officials receiving criminal kickbacks, and so much more. All Americans should vocally support this investigation into massive corruption.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #66]

Trump's appointees are uncovering trillions of dollars of corruption, fraud, theft, and abuse in the entrenched bureaucracy. Billions of dollars of this fraud and abuse is in the form of payments to leftist government officials like Stacey Abrahams and dozens of others, fraud in the form of sending money to leftist causes overseas that have no value to Americans apart from corrupt US officials receiving criminal kickbacks, and so much more. All Americans should vocally support this investigation into massive corruption.

And you believe that....why? Because they say so?

How much of the "trillions of dollars" being "uncovered" happens to be coming from regulatory agencies which were investigating Musk's businesses?

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #66]

Trump's appointees are uncovering trillions of dollars of corruption, fraud, theft, and abuse in the entrenched bureaucracy. Billions of dollars of this fraud and abuse is in the form of payments to leftist government officials like Stacey Abrahams and dozens of others, fraud in the form of sending money to leftist causes overseas that have no value to Americans apart from corrupt US officials receiving criminal kickbacks, and so much more. All Americans should vocally support this investigation into massive corruption.

And you believe that....why? Because they say so?

How much of the "trillions of dollars" being "uncovered" happens to be coming from regulatory agencies which were investigating Musk's businesses?

Marke: I support all criminal investigations which would include legitimate investigations into Musk's businesses if incriminating evidence arises that needs to be investigated, but I still want Trump's appointees to unearth every government dime that found its corrupt way into leftist liberal and liberal organization bank accounts both at home and abroad.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #68]

I support all criminal investigations which would include legitimate investigations into Musk's businesses if incriminating evidence arises that needs to be investigated, but I still want Trump's appointees to unearth every government dime that found its corrupt way into leftist liberal and liberal organization bank accounts both at home and abroad.

Okay. If you're in favor of legitimate investigations into Musk's businesses if incriminating evidence arises that needs to be investigated, then you must be in favor of letting federal investigators stay on the job to do the work of looking for incriminating evidence.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #6]

If lefties claim Jesus was instructing governments to rob its working citizens to redistribute their wealth to the non-working and undeserving the lefties are butchering the Scriptures.

"Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all. Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need. (Acts 4:32-35)

The Christian apostles don't seem to have dismissed those who have need as "the non-working and undeserving".


As for robbing working citizens, isn't it tantamount to robbery to make working citizens slave away for a minimum wage which won't buy them health insurance?

Marke: The untested socialism experiment in the early church failed and was never intended to be a blueprint for national governments.