What is "a god?"

[placebofactor]

Men have imagined many myths, legends, idols, gods, goddesses, heroes, demons, angels, saints, sun gods, moon gods, the gods of the hills, and the thousands of gods of ancient Egypt, Assyria, Persia, Babylon, Greece, and Rome; if gathered together in one place their images would fill the Smithsonian or the Colosseum in Rome.

There are those on this forum that claim Jesus Christ is not the true God. If this is true, he must be a false god like all other gods mentioned above because there is only one true God. And if Jesus is only “a god” what is he the god of?

My Bible claims the true God or Jehovah as some prefer to call him is perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness and is to be worshipped by his faithful followers. The LORD is both the Creator and ruler of the universe; and in the Old Testament, he is called, “I Am, Elohim, or Jehovah.”

So, if Jesus Christ is only “a god,” he is not worthy of any Christian’s love, honor, or respect.

Some claim we can pay obeisance to Jesus, but we cannot worship him. If we can pay obeisance to Jesus who is only "a god," why would it be wrong to bow a knee to any man who claims to be God, or even Satan who is the prince of the power of the air?

[onewithhim]

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One has to understand the definition of "god." It means anything that people might place ahead of the true God as more important to them than God. It also can mean a powerful, revered, important person, which the Bible calls judges, and it applies to governors and kings, etc. Jesus is a powerful, revered, important Person. Therefore he can be called "a god."

And do you worship Jesus of the same level with the judges, governors, kings and etc?

No, not the same "level."

[placebofactor]

[Replying to Capbook in post #10]

One of the biggest corruptions of the New World Translation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses occurs in 1 Corinthians 10:9.

K.J.B. “Neither let us tempt (test) Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.”

N.W.T. of Watchtower: “Neither let us put Jehovah to the test, as some of them put (him) to the test, only to perish by serpents.”

The Strong’s concordance said it’s “Christos,” the anointed, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus Christ.

Now, why did the Watchtower change Christ to Jehovah? They changed it like they changed John 1:1 “The word was a god” so they could strip Jesus of his divinity.

Let’s see what the Jews did to earn the wrath of God.
Exodus 17:2-7, Moses said to the people, “Wherefore do you tempt the LORD (Jehovah)?”

Moses told the people not to tempt the LORD (Jehovah). Paul warns us not to tempt Christ. Paul also tells us it was Christ whom the Jews tempted in Exodus. Even the N.W.T. admits in its footnotes it’s “the Christ.” Their evidence for Jehovah lies in a few obscure men: They mention an Issac Salkinso; a C.D. Ginsburg of London, and J. Bauchet of Rome. Never heard of any of them, and I cannot find their work on 1 Corinthians.

Some of the oldest manuscripts have “Lord” and one manuscript reads “God” instead of Christ. So, if it’s Lord, it would be Christ.

So, because Christ, or Lord, is the genuine reading, Jesus is Jehovah of the Old Testament.” What the Witnesses are relying on are, the unknown and mysterious translators of their Bible, the New World Translation.

[servant1]

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There are 2 kinds on Earth to Gods view= The ones he says are granted to be righteous and the wicked. The wicked bow to satan daily and don't even know it( 2Cor 11:12-15)--he is a god( 2 Cor 4:4)--- The followers of the true God-Jehovah bow to his appointed king in obeisance daily, he is a god. By obeying( John 15:10-14) all that he taught. By living to do his Fathers will over self( Matt 7:21) just as he does.
a god = has godlike qualities it is not calling that one God.

[placebofactor]

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There are 2 kinds on Earth to Gods view= The ones he says are granted to be righteous and the wicked. The wicked bow to satan daily and don't even know it( 2Cor 11:12-15)--he is a god( 2 Cor 4:4)--- The followers of the true God-Jehovah bow to his appointed king in obeisance daily, he is a god. By obeying( John 15:10-14) all that he taught. By living to do his Fathers will over self( Matt 7:21) just as he does.
a god = has godlike qualities it is not calling that one God.

Would you say studying with a corrupted Bible can bring a person down to the feet of Satan?

[servant1]

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Without a doubt. Every translation on Earth with Gods name removed in over 7000 spots, replaced with GOD or LORD mislead into darkness.
Jesus' Fathers will = he put his personal name in over 7000 spots in his real translation. Wicked men who had no right removed it by satans will nearly 6800 spots OT, and over 200 spots NT, to mislead. FACT= Jesus lives 24/7 to do his Fathers will as do the true followers( Matt 7:21) who follow Jesus footsteps closely. Jesus would choose a translation with his Fathers name in those over 7000 spots supporting his Fathers will, as do the true followers and his 1 real religion he leads. The rest using the altered bibles are being mislead to give support to satans will on that matter, like this-2Cor 11:12-15)

[placebofactor]

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Without a doubt. Every translation on Earth with Gods name removed in over 7000 spots, replaced with GOD or LORD mislead into darkness.
Jesus' Fathers will = he put his personal name in over 7000 spots in his real translation. Wicked men who had no right removed it by satans will nearly 6800 spots OT, and over 200 spots NT, to mislead. FACT= Jesus lives 24/7 to do his Fathers will as do the true followers( Matt 7:21) who follow Jesus footsteps closely. Jesus would choose a translation with his Fathers name in those over 7000 spots supporting his Fathers will, as do the true followers and his 1 real religion he leads. The rest using the altered bibles are being mislead to give support to satans will on that matter, like this-2Cor 11:12-15)

Herein is the Watchtowers' greatest mistakes. Concerning the name Jehovah. Believe it or not, the Jehovah's Witnesses did not discover the name Jehovah; it's been around since the creation. So, please stop pretending the Witnesses discover God's name.
1. Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. He is the author and finisher of our faith. At no time has anyone ever seen the Father here on earth.
2. Jesus walked with Adam in the Garden.
3. He wrestled with Jacob.
4. He was with Sampson's father and mother.
5. Seen by Abraham and Sarah
6. Seen by Joshua

Wicked men did not remove Jehovah from the original manuscripts. The Jews thought God's name, Y.H.W.H was too holy to pronounce, so to show respect and with great fear, replaced it with LORD and God. Read the following three verses carefully.

Exodus 20.7, "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."

Ephesians 2:21-23, Speaks of Christ Jesus, He is, "Far above all principality, and power and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be the head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fulness of Him that fills all in all." It's Jesus' name, not Jehovah's.

Colossians 2:9-10, "For in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye (the church) are complete in Him, (Jesus) which is the head of all principality and power..."
You cannot have all the ulness of the Godhead in you and not be God.

Where's the respect for Jesus name? He alone saves. He's our only Savior. "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Jehovah is now called Jesus, so stop divesting him of his glory, the glory his Father gave him.

It amazes me how anyone can follow an organization that publishes a bible and will not reveal the authors or their scholarly credentials. The Lord revealed the writers of his word.

[servant1]

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Only the wicked fear taking Gods name in vain. The righteous love Gods name= praise it, share it, and call upon it.
You are 100% mistaken-Jesus is not Jehovah--Psalm 110:1-The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord( Jesus) sit at my( not our) right hand until i make your enemies as a stoll for your feet.
But since all altered translations have the LORD said to my Lord=mislead into not knowing bible truth.

[Capbook]

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One has to understand the definition of "god." It means anything that people might place ahead of the true God as more important to them than God. It also can mean a powerful, revered, important person, which the Bible calls judges, and it applies to governors and kings, etc. Jesus is a powerful, revered, important Person. Therefore he can be called "a god."

And do you worship Jesus of the same level with the judges, governors, kings and etc?

No, not the same "level."

Then your church practiced "henotheism" not "monotheism."

[placebofactor]

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Only the wicked fear taking Gods name in vain. The righteous love Gods name= praise it, share it, and call upon it.
You are 100% mistaken-Jesus is not Jehovah--Psalm 110:1-The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord( Jesus) sit at my( not our) right hand until i make your enemies as a stoll for your feet.
But since all altered translations have the LORD said to my Lord=mislead into not knowing bible truth.

Psalms 110:1,

When the Father declared his beloved Son as God, Hebrews 1:8, then declared that, Hebrews 1:10, "You LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of our hands:" and that Hebrews 1:13, one day all his enemies will be HIS footstool." Only God can create!

To sit at the right hand was understood by the Jews as not only a mark of honor, but also implied participation in power. The ancient Jews did not think the way we do. We have to put these things in a correct context.

1 Kings 2:19, "Bathsheba therefore went unto King Solomon, to speak unto him for Adoni-jah. And the King rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his RIGHT HAND."

Mark 16:19, "So then after the Lord (Jesus) had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."

Psalms 29:10, "The LORD sits upon the flood; yea, the LORD sits King forever. With Revelation 19:16, Jesus, "has on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING of KINGS, and LORD of LORDS."

And as KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS, Jesus said in Matthew 28:18, "ALL power is given unto me in HEAVEN and in EARTH."

[servant1]

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Yes only God can create=Gen 1:27=HE( not we)= YHWH(Jehovah) = THROUGH Jesus, not by Jesus.