Jesus is God - honour the Son just like you would the Father

[Wootah]

[Bible_Student]

The Greek verb for "to honour" is never utilized in the context of "to worship." Actually, it frequently appears in texts about honoring one's parents, as well as secular human authorities, among others. Jesus said:

John 12:26 ... If anyone would minister to me, the Father will honor him.

The statement "honour the Son just as you honour the Father" is directed toward the Jews, who likely "honored" God while showing disregard for His Son. Jesus said he honoured his Father while Jews dishonoured him in John 8:49.

The conjunction "as/like" indicates that you cannot truly honour one individual if you disrespect his son. It is essential to show respect to both or it woldn't be a real honour. This does not imply that they hold the same level of authority, but rather that both deserve to be honored to be a true respect.

Would anyone believe you hold them in high regard if you treat their child poorly?

[servant1]

[Replying to Wootah in post #1]


Jesus is Gods son=not God. God sent( John 3:16-17) his son to Earth= God did not come down here.
Yes honor him by learning, applying and obeying all that he taught to the best of ones ability. But dont forget-The darkness teaches to give Jesus worship out of altered translations, The Greek word=Proskeneu, carries 5 different meanings from Greek to English-1) worship to God-2) obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge, plus 2 more-Obeisance is the correct usage for Gods appointed king, not worship as Catholicism translated to Jesus. but fact is Jesus wont even accept glory from men( John 5:41)-Why? Because his God and Father fathered all spiritual truth-Jesus just shared it. John 5:30)--see he can do 0 of his own.

[marke]

The Greek verb for "to honour" is never utilized in the context of "to worship." Actually, it frequently appears in texts about honoring one's parents, as well as secular human authorities, among others. Jesus said:

John 12:26 ... If anyone would minister to me, the Father will honor him.

The statement "honour the Son just as you honour the Father" is directed toward the Jews, who likely "honored" God while showing disregard for His Son. Jesus said he honoured his Father while Jews dishonoured him in John 8:49.

The conjunction "as/like" indicates that you cannot truly honour one individual if you disrespect his son. It is essential to show respect to both or it woldn't be a real honour. This does not imply that they hold the same level of authority, but rather that both deserve to be honored to be a true respect.

Would anyone believe you hold them in high regard if you treat their child poorly?

Marke: Jesus shared equality with God from before the universe was created. John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

[FruitoftheSpirit]

[Capbook]

The Greek verb for "to honour" is never utilized in the context of "to worship." Actually, it frequently appears in texts about honoring one's parents, as well as secular human authorities, among others. Jesus said:

John 12:26 ... If anyone would minister to me, the Father will honor him.

The statement "honour the Son just as you honour the Father" is directed toward the Jews, who likely "honored" God while showing disregard for His Son. Jesus said he honoured his Father while Jews dishonoured him in John 8:49.

The conjunction "as/like" indicates that you cannot truly honour one individual if you disrespect his son. It is essential to show respect to both or it woldn't be a real honour. This does not imply that they hold the same level of authority, but rather that both deserve to be honored to be a true respect.

Would anyone believe you hold them in high regard if you treat their child poorly?

The comparison of the word "will honor" in John 5:23 has different definition by Bible lexicon with John 12:26.
John 5:23 means as to honor with reverent service, while
John 12:26 means as to treat graciously, visit with marks favor.
And reverence is a foundational attitude for worship. It's the feeling that precedes and motivates the actions of worship.
https://www.google.com/search?q=reveren ... s-wiz-serp

Psa 2:11 Worship the LORD with reverence And rejoice with trembling.

Jhn 5:23 so?G2443? that all?G3956? will honor?G5091? the Son?G5207? even?G2531a? as they honor?G5091? the Father?G3962?. ?R1?He who does not honor?G5091? the Son?G5207? does not honor?G5091? the Father?G3962? who sent?G3992? Him.

G5091 (Mounce)
????? tima?
21x: to estimate in respect of worth; to hold in estimation, respect, honor, reverence, Mat 15:4-5; Mat 15:8; Mat 19:19; Mrk 7:10; to honor with reverent service, Jhn 5:23 (4x); 8:49; to treat with honor, manifest consideration towards, Act 28:10; to treat graciously, visit with marks of favor, Jhn 12:26; mid. to price, Mat 27:9.

[Wootah]

The issue isn't whether honour means worship, the issue is the 'just as'.

just as
????? (kath?s)
Adverb
Strong's 2531: According to the manner in which, in the degree that, just as, as. From kata and hos; just as, that.

Even if honour does not mean worship and if the Son is not God and the Father is God: It seems wrong to honour the Son just as/equally with the Father.