Catholic Dogma

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Inferences must be inferred from the genuine sense of the words, not from a false or counterfeit sense, whether literal or mystical meaning hidden or secret.

Let me give you an example by looking at two verses. I use this example because it was a horrible period for the Christian community at large, and for mankind in general when this verse was interpreted incorrectly.

Peter had a vision; he saw heaven open, and a vessel descended down to him. It was like a great sheet and held all types of four-footed beasts of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and fowls of the air. It appears that every species of animal and bird was contained in this sheet. To the Jew, these were both clean and unclean. The unclean were forbidden by the Jew to eat, and were not to be used in their ceremonial law, yet Peter saw tham all together.

Acts 10:10-20, "And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill and eat." Peter at first refused the Lord, saying, "I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

This verse has been wrongly used in the past by the Catholic hierarchy.

Compare "Kill and eat," with John 21:16, when Jesus said to Peter, "Feed my sheep." Catholic leaders in past centuries claimed and still claim to be the successors of Christ and Peter, using these verses in the following manner.

From the command, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat, as opposed to the Lord's directions to Peter, "Feed my sheep." Catholics have, by a two-fold false inference, with one hand, fed the Church, and with the other, put thousands of Christians to death. Those who chose to dispute church doctrine would be jailed or killed. It becomes obvious that this tragedy was derived from putting a false and fabricated sense upon these passages.

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I would like to add this to the above comments. On the front cover of the Catholic Catechism, they wrote, "The teaching of Jesus Christ." If you can find any of the above Catholic dogma in Jesus' teaching, please let me know where; I can't find it.

Since the Catholic Church isn't bound by the Protestant concept of sola scriptura, that doesn't seem like a huge hurdle to overcome. Protestants already make similar apologetic arguments for Matthew 27:9, which doesn't match anything said by Jeremiah. If one believes that Jesus taught everything as part of the Catechism and relayed that through revelation to the faithful, that doesn't seem much different than other strictly nonbiblical doctrines, both Catholic and Protestant. Many Protestants believe that the Bible is verbally inerrant, for example, but that's taught nowhere in the Bible, either. Even if you try very hard to shape them to what you think the Bible says, those very traditions can't help but affect how you read and engage with the Bible in the first place.

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I would like to add this to the above comments. On the front cover of the Catholic Catechism, they wrote, "The teaching of Jesus Christ." If you can find any of the above Catholic dogma in Jesus' teaching, please let me know where; I can't find it.

Since the Catholic Church isn't bound by the Protestant concept of sola scriptura, that doesn't seem like a huge hurdle to overcome. Protestants already make similar apologetic arguments for Matthew 27:9, which doesn't match anything said by Jeremiah. If one believes that Jesus taught everything as part of the Catechism and relayed that through revelation to the faithful, that doesn't seem much different than other strictly nonbiblical doctrines, both Catholic and Protestant. Many Protestants believe that the Bible is verbally inerrant, for example, but that's taught nowhere in the Bible, either. Even if you try very hard to shape them to what you think the Bible says, those very traditions can't help but affect how you read and engage with the Bible in the first place.

I agree in part. The idea of Protestantism covers a wide range of churches, thoughts, and teachings. Baptist, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, even Mormon, and Jehovah's Witness fall in part under the umbrella of Protestant. I am an independent, meaning my teacher is the Holy Spirit, and not a man, men, or organization. And because I have to depend solely on the Holy Spirit, and because the Scriptures claim thy are God breathed, and because Jesus is the author and finisher of my faith, I have to trust ALL scripture to be watched over and cared for by them. Are there things I don't understand? Of course, there are. It's not because they have not been protected by God, it's because of my limited understanding of God and his way.

As far as the Bible being inerrant, let's put your comment to the test. Revelation 22:18-19. You know the verses that demand that God's word is not to be added to or taken away from. Th

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I would like to add this to the above comments. On the front cover of the Catholic Catechism, they wrote, "The teaching of Jesus Christ." If you can find any of the above Catholic dogma in Jesus' teaching, please let me know where; I can't find it.

Since the Catholic Church isn't bound by the Protestant concept of sola scriptura, that doesn't seem like a huge hurdle to overcome. Protestants already make similar apologetic arguments for Matthew 27:9, which doesn't match anything said by Jeremiah. If one believes that Jesus taught everything as part of the Catechism and relayed that through revelation to the faithful, that doesn't seem much different than other strictly nonbiblical doctrines, both Catholic and Protestant. Many Protestants believe that the Bible is verbally inerrant, for example, but that's taught nowhere in the Bible, either. Even if you try very hard to shape them to what you think the Bible says, those very traditions can't help but affect how you read and engage with the Bible in the first place.

I agree in part. The idea of Protestantism covers a wide range of churches, thoughts, and teachings. Baptist, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, even Mormon, and Jehovah's Witness fall in part under the umbrella of Protestant. I am an independent, meaning my teacher is the Holy Spirit, and not a man, men, or organization. And because I have to depend solely on the Holy Spirit, and because the Scriptures claim thy are God breathed, and because Jesus is the author and finisher of my faith, I have to trust ALL scripture to be watched over and cared for by them. Are there things I don't understand? Of course, there are. It's not because they have not been protected by God, it's because of my limited understanding of God and his way.

As far as the Bible being inerrant, let's put your comment to the test. Revelation 22:18-19. You know the verses that demand that God's word is not to be added to or taken away from. Th

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