placebofactor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:55 pm
onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:51 pm
placebofactor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:59 am
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Replying to placebofactor in post #69]
The question is, "Is God done with the Jews?"
Jeremiah put it this way: first read verses 31-35. Jeremiah 31:36, "If those ordinances depart from before ---- then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me forever. Thus said the LORD; if heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, said the LORD."
The last time I looked, Israel still exists as a nation.
Yes, and I visited there two years ago. It was beautiful in many ways. Yet the nation is not God's special nation anymore, because they failed to keep their part in the covenant and even killed God's Son, so now God's people are the Christian congregation, as Peter stated:
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an
holy nation, a peculiar (purchased) people...Which in time past were not a people, but
are now the people of God..." (IPeter 2:9,10, KJV)
"Simeon (Peter) hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name." (Acts 15:14, KJV)
See also Matthew 21:43; Matthew 23:37,38.
Question: Do you bother reading the comments that others post?
Concerning the Abrahamic Covenant and the New Covenant Jesus brought with him, both are unconditional. These covenants are God's promises to bring the 12 tribes of Israel to salvation. All a Jew has to do is obey, just as the Gentiles have to obey. How in the world can the Gentile nations be grafted into the blessings of the Jews if God is done with them? That would be like grafting a branch into a dead tree. The grafted-in branch would die. How can the Gentiles be adopted into a family that does not exist? Your reasoning makes no sense.
Jesus is the messenger of the new covenant, and his blood is the new covenant. As you read, note the personal pronoun
"I" = Jehovah.
Jeremiah outlines God's promises to the Jews. Jeremiah 31:31, "The days come, said the LORD, that
I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (12 tribes)
Verse 33, "But this shall be the covenant that
I (Jehovah) will make with the house of Israel; After those days, said the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and
THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE."
Verse 34,
"I will forgive their iniquity, and
I will remember their sin no more." This was the LORD'S unconditional promise to the Jews; all they have to do is receive Jesus Christ, and over the past 2000 years, many Jews representing the 12 tribes have come to the Lord. No one can deny that fact.
Of course, and Jehovah made a covenant with Israel to always be with them and make them prosper
as long as they obeyed Him and worshipped only Him. They neglected their part of the bargain and thus were not God's "holy nation" any longer, as God went to the nations to take out of them a people for His name. (Acts 13:46; 15:14) The promise to the Jews was conditional.
"For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off....See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply, and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish....I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." (Deuteronomy 30:11,15-19, KJV)
Did Israel worship other gods? Did they abandon Jehovah's commandments?
"Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough,
to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. Therefore thou [Jeremiah] shalt speak all these words unto them;
but they will not harken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. But thou shalt say unto them,
This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth." (Jeremiah 7: 17,18,27,28, KJV)
"Hear, O earth: behold, I [the LORD] will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not harkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it." (Jeremiah 6:19, KJV)
