When discussing/debating the 'facts' for a resurrection claim, theists often cite 'the empty tomb.' But we must first ask ourselves, why should doubters, skeptics, agnostic atheists, scoffers, etc., even consider that a crucified Jesus was placed into a tomb, guarded by Roman soldiers, in the first place?
For debate: Is it even plausible that Jesus's deemed "blasphemous" body was merely chucked into an unmarked hole or grave, along with others of various committed 'crimes'? Or maybe He was not really buried at all? Or maybe buried alone in the ground? Or maybe He was left for the buzzards? Or maybe many other options?
If not, why not? Why MUST He have been placed into a tomb, which was guarded by Roman soldiers, for arguably three days?
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Post #1In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."
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Post #361[Replying to 1DoubtingThomas in post #360]
I thank you for your thoughts and your passion, but I feel I've already responded to you sufficiently and honestly. Whatever that makes me, I've got nothing more to add. Thank you for loving me enough to confront me in what you think I've got wrong.
I thank you for your thoughts and your passion, but I feel I've already responded to you sufficiently and honestly. Whatever that makes me, I've got nothing more to add. Thank you for loving me enough to confront me in what you think I've got wrong.
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Post #362The Tanager wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:10 am [Replying to 1DoubtingThomas in post #360]
I thank you for your thoughts and your passion, but I feel I've already responded to you sufficiently and honestly. Whatever that makes me, I've got nothing more to add. Thank you for loving me enough to confront me in what you think I've got wrong.
^^^ The Tanager, in addressing your statement above where your God Jesus stated specifically that homosexuals are "worthy of DEATH"
1. JESUS AS GOD SAID: "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." (Romans 1:32)
Relative to Romans 1:32: "He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)
^^^ The words as taught, is that your Jesus as GOD says that homosexuals are worthy of DEATH in Romans 1:32!
Where my question to you in my last post #360 being the FORTH TIME that you FAILED to answer, was: "In the 21st Century, how do you logically rationalize your God stating with specificity, that Homosexuals are worthy of DEATH, and anyone that accepts their ungodly lifestyle, are to be murdered as well?!" (Romans 1:32)
2. The Tanager, are you sure that you want to go on record in this esteemed Religion Discussion Forum where you are an honorable moderator, where you are obviously to embarrassed about your Jewish God named Jesus in his verse in Romans 1:32 shown above, to the point that you could not address his direct words as shown towards my question to you that you could not respond too, in Him saying that homosexuals are worthy of death?
Then when you said: "Whatever that makes me, I've got nothing more to add" then what that makes you "biblically" is YOU being a "Pseudo-Christian," look up the term.
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I am doubting my faith at this time because my brothers are continually showing me very disturbing passages and narratives within the Christian Jewish Bible for the reason for me to leave Christianity in the 21st Century. I am willing to have any Christian try and convince me into fully staying within the Christian faith..... ANY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN TAKERS?
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Post #363The Tanager wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:10 am [Replying to 1DoubtingThomas in post #360]
I thank you for your thoughts and your passion, but I feel I've already responded to you sufficiently and honestly. Whatever that makes me, I've got nothing more to add. Thank you for loving me enough to confront me in what you think I've got wrong.
^^^ The Tanager,
Also within our respectful discussion, was the biblical axiom where your Jesus as God said that it was "pertinent" to BEAT YOUR CHILDREN WITH A ROD! as shown in the New Testament passage below:
"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)
Therefore, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you in how you deal logically in the 21st Century with this godly passage shown above as well, where how do you logically rationalize your God stating with specificity that pseudo-christians are to BEAT THEIR CHILDREN WITH A ROD, and isn't this a Bible contradiction because Jesus as god is supposedly ever loving (Romans 5:8) and forgiving (1 John 1:9)? Yes?
The Tanager, are you sure you don't want me to easily show you how to evade your HELL upon your demise as described in Revelation 21:8?
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I am doubting my faith at this time because my brothers are continually showing me very disturbing passages and narratives within the Christian Jewish Bible for the reason for me to leave Christianity in the 21st Century. I am willing to have any Christian try and convince me into fully staying within the Christian faith..... ANY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN TAKERS?

