The Godhead, Correctly Explained

[A Freeman]

Excerpt below from:

In The Beginning Was The Word

Before the beginning of time, before there was language - both of which God created - God exists. Please note well the correct use of the word "exists", which is a present-tense verb because God has no beginning, nor any end.

Psalm 90:2 BEFORE the mountains were brought forth, or ever Thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, Thou [art] God.

God is the self-existing ONE (Exod. 3:14; Deut. 6:4; Zech. 14:9; Mark 12:29), NOT a "trinity". One actually means one; it does NOT mean 3=1 or 1=3 or anything other than one. There is only ONE Almighty God, Who is The Most High (Psalm 57:2; Luke 1:32-35; Sura 2:255), i.e. greater than ALL (John 10:29), including Christ (John 14:28).

Before God created anyone or anything, God exists. Before time began there would have been no need for the Word (communication) in any form, as there was no one else with which to communicate.

In the Beginning

John 1:1-2 KJV
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

The first creation of God was His Firstborn/Eldest Son Michael (Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14), known here on Earth by His TITLE: Christ.

Colossians 1:12-15
1:12 GIVING THANKS UNTO THE FATHER, Which hath made us meet to be sharers of the inheritance of the holy people in Light:
1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into The Kingdom of His dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 Who is the IMAGE of the INVISIBLE God, the FIRSTBORN of every CREATURE*:

*Note Well: By Definition -

IMAGE = LIKENESS. The Hebrew name "Micha-El" literally means "Who is LIKE God?". Like Michael, we (the spiritual-Beings/Souls) were made in God's IMAGE/LIKENESS, but we certainly are NOT God the Father, and neither is anyone else, including Christ (Matt. 23:9; Sura 33:40).

INVISIBLE = NOT VISIBLE. No one has ever seen God (John 1:18; John 5:37), but thousands upon thousands saw Jesus, the human son of the virgin Mary, into whom Prince Michael/Christ was incarnated.

FIRSTBORN = THE FIRST CREATED/THE FIRST TO BE BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE.

CREATURE = SOME LIVING THING THAT WAS CREATED.

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the community of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness (Prince Michael/Christ - Rev. 1:5), THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD;

The moment that God created Michael, God became known as Father (Matt. 6:9), and Michael became His Son (yes, a true Father-Son relationship - 1 John 2:22). And it was in that moment when both time and language began.

After God created Michael, God showed Michael everything, creating everyone and everything else by and for Michael (Col. 1:16).

Hebrews 1:1-4
1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in diverse manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets,
1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [His] Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
1:3 Who being the brightness of [His] glory, and the express IMAGE of His person, and upholding all things by The Word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of His Majesty on high;
1:4 Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 5:19-20
5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do NOTHING of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever He doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that Himself doeth: and He will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

[Revelations won]

To all respondents who deny the Godhead,

I find it amusing that your responses consist of a never ending list of "private interpretations" by individuals who formulate their conclusions by their own deductive reasoning with no revelation from God, no witness from the Holy Ghost whose divine purpose is to "teach us all things". Further the god they claim to worship does not and cannot speak or commune with them. Or if he did so speak it is clearly obvious by their own creed that they would utterly reject his words since they deny any possibility of latter day revelation. If our very creator were to speak today it begs the question "who gave them the right and authority to reject the creators words?

It is also very obvious that they will also by their own statements that they will deny the two prophets who will yet prophesy and perform mighty works for 3 1/2 years immediately prior to the glorious return and rule of the exalted reign of Jesus Christ who will have all judgement and power to rule and reign supreme upon this earth for all other earthly kingdoms will fail.

[OneJack]

[Replying to Revelations won in post #81]

Could you make your stand on Gods Revelation clear enough for us to respond to you accordingly, Have you any revelation from God that you heard and learned from Him?

[LightBearer]

The comment that they are original word is the opinion of the translators, not a fact.

They got that phrase "original words" from the oldest manuscripts, the papyrus 66 and papyrus 75.
And besides it is not a translation, it is in Greek " or - ".
Westcott and Hort's New Testament in the Original Greek render that phrase the same with the papyri 66 and 75.
Jesus as the "only begotten God".

(NT Wescott and Hort+) Joh 1:18 G2316 N-ASM G3762 A-NSM-N G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT G4455 ADV -G3439 A-NSM G2316 N-NSM G3588 T-NSM G1510 V-PAP-NSM G1519 PREP G3588 T-ASM G2859 N-ASM G3588 T-GSM G3962 N-GSM G1565 D-NSM --G1834 V-ADI-3S

No they did not get the phrase "original words" from the oldest manuscripts. The phrase is an opinion that manuscripts are the original words.

[Capbook]

The comment that they are original word is the opinion of the translators, not a fact.

They got that phrase "original words" from the oldest manuscripts, the papyrus 66 and papyrus 75.
And besides it is not a translation, it is in Greek " or - ".
Westcott and Hort's New Testament in the Original Greek render that phrase the same with the papyri 66 and 75.
Jesus as the "only begotten God".

(NT Wescott and Hort+) Joh 1:18 G2316 N-ASM G3762 A-NSM-N G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT G4455 ADV -G3439 A-NSM G2316 N-NSM G3588 T-NSM G1510 V-PAP-NSM G1519 PREP G3588 T-ASM G2859 N-ASM G3588 T-GSM G3962 N-GSM G1565 D-NSM --G1834 V-ADI-3S

No they did not get the phrase "original words" from the oldest manuscripts. The phrase is an opinion that manuscripts are the original words.

Didn't you read how Wescott and Hort's The New Testament in Original Greek render that phrase?(colored red above)

[LightBearer]

(NT Wescott and Hort+) Joh 1:18 G2316 N-ASM G3762 A-NSM-N G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT G4455 ADV -G3439 A-NSM G2316 N-NSM G3588 T-NSM G1510 V-PAP-NSM G1519 PREP G3588 T-ASM G2859 N-ASM G3588 T-GSM G3962 N-GSM G1565 D-NSM --G1834 V-ADI-3S


Didn't you read how Wescott and Hort's The New Testament in Original Greek render that phrase?(colored red above)

Once again, the phrase "original Greek" is an opinion that can't be substantiated.

[Capbook]

(NT Wescott and Hort+) Joh 1:18 G2316 N-ASM G3762 A-NSM-N G3708 V-RAI-3S-ATT G4455 ADV -G3439 A-NSM G2316 N-NSM G3588 T-NSM G1510 V-PAP-NSM G1519 PREP G3588 T-ASM G2859 N-ASM G3588 T-GSM G3962 N-GSM G1565 D-NSM --G1834 V-ADI-3S


Didn't you read how Wescott and Hort's The New Testament in Original Greek render that phrase?(colored red above)

Once again, the phrase "original Greek" is an opinion that can't be substantiated.

Yes, I would rather rely to what was written than to one's opinion.