The Bible God, the Law Breaker

[POI]

God is claimed to break "natural law" all the time, by walking on water, turning water into wine, raising the rotting dead, turning humans into salt, etc...

For Debate: Does God break all "law", or just some "law"? And if only some, why only some, and not all? Further, what is the point of breaking some "law", and not others? Or maybe, God breaks all "laws", which is why the Bible is illogical, immoral, and defies later human discovery?

Before you answer, a running theme is expressed among many theists... When a skeptic asks a theist, 'can God do anything?", the theist might respond with, "God can only do what is logically possible and/or what is in his moral nature". In essence, God strictly abides by some "law", but not others? By "law", I'm referencing natural law, the laws of logic, moral law, mathematics, and any others I may have missed. I trust you get the gist...?

[Athetotheist]

God is claimed to break "natural law" all the time, by walking on water, turning water into wine, raising the rotting dead, turning humans into salt, etc...

For Debate: Does God break all "law", or just some "law"? And if only some, why only some, and not all? Further, what is the point of breaking some "law", and not others? Or maybe, God breaks all "laws", which is why the Bible is illogical, immoral, and defies later human discovery?

Before you answer, a running theme is expressed among many theists... When a skeptic asks a theist, 'can God do anything?", the theist might respond with, "God can only do what is logically possible and/or what is in his moral nature". In essence, God strictly abides by some "law", but not others? By "law", I'm referencing natural law, the laws of logic, moral law, mathematics, and any others I may have missed. I trust you get the gist...?

I'm not Jewish, but here's a take on that I came across recently and thought interesting:

[1213]

God is claimed to break "natural law" all the time, by walking on water, turning water into wine, raising the rotting dead, turning humans into salt, etc...

For Debate: Does God break all "law", or just some "law"? And if only some, why only some, and not all? Further, what is the point of breaking some "law", and not others? Or maybe, God breaks all "laws", which is why the Bible is illogical, immoral, and defies later human discovery?...

It may be that God brakes all laws and discovery that are wrong, because it would not be good to be tied on bad laws and ideas.

[POI]

It may be that God brakes all laws and discovery that are wrong.

Didn't God create these laws?

[POI]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #2]

Thanks for the video, but I think we are aiming at two differing things here. When someone asks, "can God do anything?", the theist will often answer, "only what is logically possible and/or what is morally righteous". God seems to break 'natural law' all the time. Which means he has no problem breaking law all the time. If God can do anything, then he most certainly could also break the laws of logic, moral law(s), mathematics, etc, right? Can he, and does he? Maybe he does, which is why the book is illogical and breaks moral law? Or, is he unable to break some law? Why then would he be able to break some law, and not others? And for what purpose is he breaking natural law?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #3]

It may be that God brakes all laws and discovery that are wrong, because it would not be good to be tied on bad laws and ideas.

....which raises the question of why those bad laws and ideas should be considered divine in the first place, when they seem to have come from limited, fallible human minds.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to POI in post #5]

Thanks for the video, but I think we are aiming at two differing things here.

Wasn't trying to be off-topic. I thought of the video because you included "moral law.......and any others I may have missed" on your list.

[1213]

[Replying to 1213 in post #3]

It may be that God brakes all laws and discovery that are wrong, because it would not be good to be tied on bad laws and ideas.

....which raises the question of why those bad laws and ideas should be considered divine in the first place, when they seem to have come from limited, fallible human minds.

Yeah, I don't think laws that humans have invented are divine. But, i don't think the laws in the Bible are human invention.

[1213]

It may be that God brakes all laws and discovery that are wrong.

Didn't God create these laws?

The "laws of nature" are imagined by humans and can be wrong.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #8]

Yeah, I don't think laws that humans have invented are divine. But, i don't think the laws in the Bible are human invention.

Then it was divine law, not human law, being divinely countermanded. Even the rabbi in the video admits that.