Jesus Way of Shepherding

[OneJack]

Jesus Way of Shepherding - COMING to and FOLLOWING the Lord Jesus Christ until the end,

Let's examine closely the flow of actions between the sheep and the Lord regarding salvation:


27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.


28. And I give them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Read between the lines:

1. When we hear the voice of the Lord Jesus, we are known by Him.

2. When we follow the Lord Jesus, He gives us:

a) eternal life,
b) we shall never perish, and
c) no one can pluck us out of His hand.

There is no teaching of Jesus about 'free gift' or 'by grace, and the belief in the finished work of Christ to be saved, as you teach it today. Instead, those teachings are from Paul. Paul is not Jesus, even if you say he was sent by the Lord."

[Capbook]

Why would you knock on someone’s heart when you know now that Jesus is always beside you, 24/7, and you can knock on His heart any time you want to?

Have you experienced knocking at your Jesus heart? May I know how you do it?

Do that mean that you are not a Biblical believer? (John 14:10)

Absolutely! I only believe in the Living Christ Jesus, minus the bible.

Do that mean that the Bible's messages contradicts what your Jesus revealed to you? Or the someone you believe as Jesus said that the Bible is unreliable?

Yes, because Jesus sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Here Jesus sits beside God's throne. If He is the Father Himself why sat at the right hand? Why not to the Father's throne.

Heb 12:2  looking only at Jesus, the originator and perfecter of the faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Better ask Jesus when you see Him on His second coming through the Son of Man.

I believe you have better access than me as you've mentioned your Jesus still speaks to you.

I don’t believe in the book of Hebrews because it has led many to false beliefs about God and Jesus.

Or you don't believe the book of Hebrews because your Jesus said so?

It’s was within the period the Lord did shepherd us that He explained to us the difference between His manifestation of His first coming to the apostles and His manifestation of coming to us in 2001.

Is this a confirmation that your Jesus said to you that the Bible is not reliable?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #51]

Have you experienced knocking at your Jesus heart? May I know how you do it?

Simply close your eyes and call on the Lord Jesus without moving your lips, tell Him what you want from Him, and then wait for Him to respond.

Do that mean that the Bible's messages contradicts what your Jesus revealed to you?

There are contradictions, but not all.

Or the someone you believe as Jesus said that the Bible is unreliable?

It’s the Lord Jesus who taught us that there are many errors and exclusions in the bible.

I believe you have better access than me as you've mentioned your Jesus still speaks to you.

Your opinion always blocks your way leading to the door of heaven.

Or you don't believe the book of Hebrews because your Jesus said so?

The whole bible has many errors and exclusions. When you have Jesus as your pastor and teacher, you need nothing but Him.

Is this a confirmation that your Jesus said to you that the Bible is not reliable?

Jesus is for all, and He is the one who taught us that the bible has many errors and exclusions.

[Capbook]

Simply close your eyes and call on the Lord Jesus without moving your lips, tell Him what you want from Him, and then wait for Him to respond.

Is praying and knocking in ones heart the same?

There are contradictions, but not all.

Do the "not all" just to your liking? Or who decides?

It’s the Lord Jesus who taught us that there are many errors and exclusions in the bible.

Did he tell you all the verses that are in error or it is just you to decide?

I believe you have better access than me as you've mentioned your Jesus still speaks to you.

Your opinion always blocks your way leading to the door of heaven.

Because I believe the written Word of God guides us, while you claim your Jesus guides you audibly, I believe that makes you have better access than me.

The whole bible has many errors and exclusions. When you have Jesus as your pastor and teacher, you need nothing but Him.

In the Old Testament, prophets were the spokesperson of God relaying His message. Do you claim that role as God speaks to you?

Jesus is for all, and He is the one who taught us that the bible has many errors and exclusions.

Would that means that those prophets of Old and New Testament relaying God's message to mankind are just wrong because of your claim that God Jesus speaks to you as His new messenger?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #53]

Is praying and knocking in ones heart the same?

In praying, you’re simply talking to God one-way, but in knocking on the Lords’s heart, you’re aim is to come and call on the Lord God Jesus Christ bare of all your wisdom, seek His shepherding job, and wait for His response to accept you.

Do the "not all" just to your liking? Or who decides?

Of course not, it’s the Lord Jesus who says which are those that contradict His teaching.

Did he tell you all the verses that are in error or it is just you to decide?

The Lord pinpointed only some verses to show us the contradictions and exclusions in the bible. He told us that the most disorganized book in the bible is the book of Revelation.

Because I believe the written Word of God guides us, while you claim your Jesus guides you audibly, I believe that makes you have better access than me.

The bible can’t guide us because it’s only a book that cannot speak, think, act, and smell. Jesus is open to all regardless of races and tongues.

In the Old Testament, prophets were the spokesperson of God relaying His message. Do you claim that role as God speaks to you?

Actually, prophets, apostles, disciples, sons of God, friends of God, families of God, etc. are one and the same as far as the Lord is concerned. The so-called spokesperson of God is just a mere opinion of men.

Would that means that those prophets of Old and New Testament relaying God's message to mankind are just wrong because of your claim that God Jesus speaks to you as His new messenger?

You’re the one who is wrong with your opinion on what I have said about our encounter with the Lord Jesus. I’m not claiming anything for myself but for being a follower of the Lord.

[Capbook]

In praying, you’re simply talking to God one-way, but in knocking on the Lords’s heart, you’re aim is to come and call on the Lord God Jesus Christ bare of all your wisdom, seek His shepherding job, and wait for His response to accept you.

How do you know that the someone you believe as Jesus accept you in response of your knocking? By the way, how do you knock his heart? Sorry I maybe forgot.

Of course not, it’s the Lord Jesus who says which are those that contradict His teaching.

Can you cite the verses?

The Lord pinpointed only some verses to show us the contradictions and exclusions in the bible. He told us that the most disorganized book in the bible is the book of Revelation.

I believe Revelation is very important as it reveal the Dragon of old. Is he afraid to be revealed?

The bible can’t guide us because it’s only a book that cannot speak, think, act, and smell. Jesus is open to all regardless of races and tongues.

Yes, but he does not want you to know what the book of Revelation is revealing?

Actually, prophets, apostles, disciples, sons of God, friends of God, families of God, etc. are one and the same as far as the Lord is concerned. The so-called spokesperson of God is just a mere opinion of men.

I believe all messengers whom communicated with God and relay it to mankind are called prophets. Do your group claim that role?

You’re the one who is wrong with your opinion on what I have said about our encounter with the Lord Jesus. I’m not claiming anything for myself but for being a follower of the Lord.

Did you not claim that someone you believe as Jesus talk to you and to your group and that you are relaying his messages here and to anybody just like Moses, OT and NT authors doing?
You are doing what prophets were doing.

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #55]

How do you know that the someone you believe as Jesus accept you in response of your knocking? By the way, how do you knock his heart? Sorry I maybe forgot.

The Lord will respond to your call, you’ll be able to talk to Him. Knock on the door and knock on Jesus’ heart is synonymous - call on the Lord and wait for Him to respond.

Can you cite the verses?

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

The Lord Jesus taught us that what He really said to Adam was, “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely clothed in sin.”

I believe Revelation is very important as it reveal the Dragon of old. Is he afraid to be revealed?

That’s what you think, but it is not so with the Lord Jesus. We've been put through a spiritual boot camp by the Lord, learning to identify and overcome demonic activities.

Yes, but he does not want you to know what the book of Revelation is revealing?

Don’t fool yourself, only Jesus can reveal to us the identity and works of Satan. What you opine as revelation in the book of Revelation is nothing but just perceptions and doctrines of men.

I believe all messengers whom communicated with God and relay it to mankind are called prophets. Do your group claim that role?

The exact term given to us by the Lord is ‘family of God,’ which is equivalent to the terminologies I just mentioned.

Did you not claim that someone you believe as Jesus talk to you and to your group and that you are relaying his messages here and to anybody just like Moses, OT and NT authors doing?

I definitely say ‘Jesus talked to us,’ not ‘someone I believe Jesus,’ which is your opinion.

You are doing what prophets were doing.

Okay!

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #55]

How do you know that the someone you believe as Jesus accept you in response of your knocking? By the way, how do you knock his heart? Sorry I maybe forgot.

The Lord will respond to your call, you’ll be able to talk to Him. Knock on the door and knock on Jesus’ heart is synonymous - call on the Lord and wait for Him to respond.

Can you cite the verses?

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

The Lord Jesus taught us that what He really said to Adam was, “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely clothed in sin.”

I believe Revelation is very important as it reveal the Dragon of old. Is he afraid to be revealed?

That’s what you think, but it is not so with the Lord Jesus. We've been put through a spiritual boot camp by the Lord, learning to identify and overcome demonic activities.

Yes, but he does not want you to know what the book of Revelation is revealing?

Don’t fool yourself, only Jesus can reveal to us the identity and works of Satan. What you opine as revelation in the book of Revelation is nothing but just perceptions and doctrines of men.

I believe all messengers whom communicated with God and relay it to mankind are called prophets. Do your group claim that role?

The exact term given to us by the Lord is ‘family of God,’ which is equivalent to the terminologies I just mentioned.

Did you not claim that someone you believe as Jesus talk to you and to your group and that you are relaying his messages here and to anybody just like Moses, OT and NT authors doing?

I definitely say ‘Jesus talked to us,’ not ‘someone I believe Jesus,’ which is your opinion.

You are doing what prophets were doing.

Okay!

Is that an acceptance that you and your group are the prophets of the endtime?
Can't we not call the prophets as "family of God" also?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #57]

Is that an acceptance that you and your group are the prophets of the endtime?

We’re just one [family of God] among the many families of God today worldwide.

Can't we not call the prophets as "family of God" also?

I tell you, they are one and the same to the Lord, and so with us today.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #57]

Is that an acceptance that you and your group are the prophets of the endtime?

We’re just one [family of God] among the many families of God today worldwide.

Can't we not call the prophets as "family of God" also?

I tell you, they are one and the same to the Lord, and so with us today.

So, you just confirmed that you and your group are the prophets of today.
If that is so, may we know when the true Jesus second coming would be?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #57]

Is that an acceptance that you and your group are the prophets of the endtime?

We’re just one [family of God] among the many families of God today worldwide.

Can't we not call the prophets as "family of God" also?

I tell you, they are one and the same to the Lord, and so with us today.

So, you just confirmed that you and your group are the prophets of today.
If that is so, may we know when the true Jesus second coming would be?

You’re so obsessed with that second coming of Jesus, which even the Son himself does not know when that will be.