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The Gospel of Jesus vs the Gospel of Jehovah

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Depending on who you "think" the Living God is you have a "Gospel" from Him. And it is a huge problem to many.

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So who is He? Jesus or Jehovah/Yahweh? There can not be 2 Gods. One is a liar. So let us see what Jesus says about "His Gospel". And let us see what Jehovah says about "His Gospel".

A "contest" between the "2 Gods"? Sure. The Living God does not fear it. In fact He Loves it.

Let the Fire Fall! Because the Real God answers in "Fire" and is not scared to be "challenged". In Fact the "challenge belongs to Him. Because the Victory too.

1 Kings 18: 21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.*n5
22 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the Lord; but Baal’s prophets are four hundred and fifty men.
23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:
24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.*n6
25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.
26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.*n7*n8*n9
27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.*n10*n11*n12
28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.*n13
29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.*n14*n15

30 And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me.

So what is the Gospel of Jesus? And what is the Gospel of Jehovah?

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Johan wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:47 am
1213 wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:17 am Interesting, if it is not enough what is said in the Bible.
This is agreement to the pic where I said it is the general "Gospel" proclaimed by the denominations and organizations. Or did I get something wrong, Brother?

1213 wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:17 am But, I think more accurate image would be this:
So in your personal believe which "deviates" in something very "small" from the organizations and denominations you give something "more accurate" which states that the picture is also accurate to you in your personal faith. Accept for this very small change you are making according to your personal viewpoint.


1213 wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:17 am So, in the image it should be the opposite, people are invited and on the gate to God's kingdom there is a man who checks are you dressed properly. If you are dressed to righteousness, you get in. If you are not, you stay out.
So you added someone "checking" for "Jesus" who is going to hell and who not. That is indeed something so small that we can say that you in general accept the picture as the "Gospel" which you also basically proclaim and believe in? If it is a Great change you should tell us how and why you say it.
There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am
There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Seems you are unclear about the "Gospel of Jesus", Brother. Because you accepted my picture of the "Gospel of Jesus". And you accepted that it is indeed the "Gospel" as being taught by all the congregations and denominations because you didn't bring in any point which show us that I missed on some point. And you also didn't bring a personal correction from your understanding of it. Meaning you are basically standing 100% for it and is 100% agreeing with it as the "Gospel of Jesus".

And then at the same time you are speaking about something else. Where you first brought in someone "checking" and now the "Books" about it. Which are clearly a running in circles, Brother.

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Johan wrote: Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am
There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Seems you are unclear about the "Gospel of Jesus", Brother. Because you accepted my picture of the "Gospel of Jesus". And you accepted that it is indeed the "Gospel" as being taught by all the congregations and denominations because you didn't bring in any point which show us that I missed on some point. And you also didn't bring a personal correction from your understanding of it. Meaning you are basically standing 100% for it and is 100% agreeing with it as the "Gospel of Jesus".

And then at the same time you are speaking about something else. Where you first brought in someone "checking" and now the "Books" about it. Which are clearly a running in circles, Brother.
Yes, the picture portrayed Jesus as knocking, and He had to be opened by believing Jesus' sacrifice in faith Brother Johan.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:37 am Yes, the picture portrayed Jesus as knocking, and He had to be opened by believing Jesus' sacrifice in faith Brother Johan.
Ok, Brother. After completely accepting the pic as a good summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" which the denominations and organizations spread everywhere you can now Edify us more on what Jesus is actually saving us from?

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1213 wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:46 pm
Johan wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:54 am [Replying to 1213 in post #2]

Yep, Brother. That is God's Gospel. Or the Gospel of Jehovah. The Real Gospel. So what is the difference between the Gospel of the Living God, Jehovah, and the "Gospel of Jesus"?...
I don't think there is a difference, because Jesus said what God had commanded him to speak.
You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.

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Johan wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:13 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:37 am Yes, the picture portrayed Jesus as knocking, and He had to be opened by believing Jesus' sacrifice in faith Brother Johan.
Ok, Brother. After completely accepting the pic as a good summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" which the denominations and organizations spread everywhere you can now Edify us more on what Jesus is actually saving us from?
Did you hear and learn what you pictured as, I would say allegedly, the ‘gospel of Jesus’ from the real and eternally living Christ Jesus?

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Johan wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:13 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:37 am Yes, the picture portrayed Jesus as knocking, and He had to be opened by believing Jesus' sacrifice in faith Brother Johan.
Ok, Brother. After completely accepting the pic as a good summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" which the denominations and organizations spread everywhere you can now Edify us more on what Jesus is actually saving us from?
If we open our hearts to Jesus by faith, He will saves us from perishing or eternal death the second death.
That is eternal life vs eternal death, destiny to the saved (righteous) and the lost (wicked), our choice matters.

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OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:59 pm You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.
Sorry, I don't think God and Jesus are the same.
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Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Ok, I think the whole books can be called the Gospel also. However, more accurately I think it is the message Jesus declared.
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1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:59 pm You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.
Sorry, I don't think God and Jesus are the same.
Why? Have you heard anything from Jesus about Himself? Or if you haven’t yet, have you heard anything from the Father about Himself?

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