The Shortest Way To The Truth

[OneJack]

The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

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[Replying to Capbook in post #19]

I agree. The Bible does not explain why Jesus said "It is written".

It is like Jesus was handing Satan a $100 bill with Jesus' image on it while saying "It is written" in such an arrogant and conceited manner.

The Bible contradicts this verse "The kingdom of god is not of words but of power" 1 cor 4:20

Labeling oneself a "jew" places himself higher than all that is on earth and in heaven.
Being called an "antisemite" will cost you your career, savings, and reputation.

Is it the words that have power or the one speaking those words (ie. "spells")? I do not know

[JehovahsWitness]

We heard through Him through His manifested voice.

So you heard a voice from an intelligent invisible spirit. speaking audible words to you much like a student hears a teacher , correct?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to Capbook in post #19]

I agree. The Bible does not explain why Jesus said "It is written".

He said "it is written" because he was referring to written laws (ie laws that had been written down).


JEHOVAHS WITNESS

[OneJack]

We heard through Him through His manifested voice.

So you heard a voice from an intelligent invisible spirit. speaking audible words to you much like a student hears a teacher , correct?

We heard the Lord Jesus through a 14-year-old boy, whom He used to teach and shepherd us for approximately 14 years.

[JehovahsWitness]

We heard the Lord Jesus through a 14-year-old boy, whom He used to teach and shepherd us for approximately 14 years.

There have been many who have claimed to hear words from a 'Jesus' or an Almighty God through the centuries, what made this young child any different from the imposters or delusional victims of unclean spirits ? How do you know he was not in communication with a demon or suffering from some kind of mental illness ?

For the kick off, the Lord sent angels to my nephew,...he saw spirits. ...[who said to him ]...we are angels sent from heaven ...they introduced themselves and said their names - Michael, Daniel, Samuel, Raniel, Ezekiel, Gristel, and Josakiel. And the angels left....

You do know demons are liars right? Surely you are aware demons can dupe people into believing they are "angels of light"?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #19]

I agree. The Bible does not explain why Jesus said "It is written".

It is like Jesus was handing Satan a $100 bill with Jesus' image on it while saying "It is written" in such an arrogant and conceited manner.

The Bible contradicts this verse "The kingdom of god is not of words but of power" 1 cor 4:20

Labeling oneself a "jew" places himself higher than all that is on earth and in heaven.
Being called an "antisemite" will cost you your career, savings, and reputation.

Is it the words that have power or the one speaking those words (ie. "spells")? I do not know

The Lord God Jesus Christ has all the powers over all things, even over those words He has spoken from the very beginning to this time.

[OneJack]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #25]

There have been many who have claimed to hear words from a 'Jesus' or an Almighty God through the centuries, what made this young child any different from the imposters or delusional victims of unclean spirits ?

I know nothing, even to this time.

How do you know he was not in communication with a demon or suffering from some kind of mental illness ?

The Lord taught us, via a two-week OJT period, how to distinguish Satan’s and his devil’s works and how to counter them with the faith He inculcated in our minds.

You do know demons are liars right?

That’s not a big deal because human beings are also liars.

Surely you are aware demons can dupe people into believing they are "angels of light"?

Yes, but I’m more than confident that the Lord is higher and above Satan and his devil, and the latter can’t override or surpass the Lord. And on top of this, they can’t do anything they wish if the Lord does not allow them.

[JehovahsWitness]

The Lord taught us, via a two-week OJT period, how to distinguish Satan’s and his devil’s works

How did thr Lord teach you? Was it via the same spirit that was using the child.? Is that not like trusting a potential liar to teach you how to identify liars?

You would obviously need a trusted OUTSIDE authority to teach that not the very ones that may be liars. Can you not see that?!

[OneJack]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #28]

How did thr Lord teach you?

As I’ve said, it’s via OJT - actual encounter with the devil.

Was it via the same spirit that was using the child.?

The Lord Jess Christ was the only one who shepherded us from the start to the finish, no other else.

Is that not like trusting a potential liar to teach you how to identify liars?

If Satan divides his hierarchy, his fold will surely crumble to pieces.

You would obviously need a trusted OUTSIDE authority to teach that not the very ones that may be liars. Can you not see that?!

You’re the one who needs what you exactly advised me to do because no one is higher and above the Lord Jesus Christ, who uttered to us the following narratives, to wit:

“"All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go.”

[JehovahsWitness]

.... no one is higher and above the Lord Jesus Christ..

But how do you know it was the Lord and not a demon PRETENDING to be the Lord Jesus (or are you perhaps claiming that demons cannot lie ? or maybe that the real Lord Jesus wouldn't LET demons lie in his name?)

Your story is like someone saying "I communicated with someone on the internet, I asked them "are you a pedophile" and he said "No" so I'm letting him babysit my kids. Someone told you they were The Lord Jesus (or Daniel or whatever) and you just BELIEVED them. Can you just articulate why. Just type: "I believed they are who they said they were because ... [fill in the blank]" because I am struggling to find anything you did to VERIFY that they were not demons.

While it is true "a house divided cannot stand" how would a demon manipulating a child into believing he is communicating with God represent a "dividing" of Satan's house? How would establishing of a family based denomination that diminishes trust in the bible canon and defers all final validation therein to these self same "spirits" be anything but a clever scheme to distance the gullible from Yahweh/Jehovah/YHWH the True God and get them involved in spiritism by another name?

Some catholic girl sees a "vision" of a woman in the white dress that claims to be the virgin mary and she believes "her" no questions asked and we have a new shrine . Some Arabic merchant claims he met the angel gabriel and BAM a new religion. Some woman on the internet claims she hears "a calm still voice" and that becomes her qualification for what is true over and above inspired scripture and Some 14 year old kid has a horrible supernatural experience and then a "nice spirit" (presumably bearing candy) appears and says he's Jesus or God or whoever and he, and his whole family start a new sect.

What is glaringly missing from all these encounters is the recipients asking for VERIFICATION from the spirits. Nobody seems to have asked "You're Jesus? Oh yeah ... prove it - raise the dead" (not move some furniture, not show me some light, not make me feel good, not show me where my late husband hid the code to his safety deposit box ... Come with me to the local morgue and bring someone on ice back to life... then we'll talk") because that's what Jesus did and that's what his Apostles did and anyone with the lick of sense should want a whole lot more than just "I'm God, take down this message" before they run for a pad and paper.