The Shortest Way To The Truth
There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:
1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.
2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.
Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.
The Shortest Way To The Truth
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #41When can you realize that Jesus is the Almighty God and that He did not die, does not die, and will not die because He is the Everlasting Life? The Son of God, per se, was the one who died on the cross.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:33 amAnd also the sacrifice of Jesus dying for us as written, is insignificant to your Jesus OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:45 pmThe answer is NO! The real and forever-living Lord Jesus Christ is the one who only matters the most, hence, SIGNIFICANT in all issues!Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 5:27 amYes, the true Jesus answered the leader Satan by what is written and I'm satisfied with passage.
You did not answer the question, is the "what is written" significant or not?
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Post #42OneJack you quote Bible verses to support your point, as you've said your belief only differs from the Bible on the way to salvation.OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:41 amWhen can you realize that Jesus is the Almighty God and that He did not die, does not die, and will not die because He is the Everlasting Life? The Son of God, per se, was the one who died on the cross.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:33 amAnd also the sacrifice of Jesus dying for us as written, is insignificant to your Jesus OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:45 pmThe answer is NO! The real and forever-living Lord Jesus Christ is the one who only matters the most, hence, SIGNIFICANT in all issues!
To quote Mat 1:25, the Son of Mary was named Jesus, as the Son named Jesus died, understandably it was Jesus that died.
As the "Son of God" is not a name but a title.
Mat 1:25Â but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.Â
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Post #43Try to think a million times, Capbook! If I took your notion, it would follow that the Eternal Father or Mighty God died because the son, whom Mary gave birth to, was also named Eternal Father, or Mighty God, or Immanuel. …(Isa 7:14; 9:6).Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 2:43 amOneJack you quote Bible verses to support your point, as you've said your belief only differs from the Bible on the way to salvation.OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:41 amWhen can you realize that Jesus is the Almighty God and that He did not die, does not die, and will not die because He is the Everlasting Life? The Son of God, per se, was the one who died on the cross.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:33 amAnd also the sacrifice of Jesus dying for us as written, is insignificant to your Jesus OneJack?
To quote Mat 1:25, the Son of Mary was named Jesus, as the Son named Jesus died, understandably it was Jesus that died.
As the "Son of God" is not a name but a title.
Mat 1:25Â but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.Â
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Post #44Since a demon can say all the so-called divine revelations you were lead to believe , to present the words themselves as proof the speaker was the True God is circular. What you have revealed the "spirit" said to you could well have (by your own admission) been a demon. The condemnation they face for lying about their identity is irrelevant since Satan and his demons have already been condemned and there is nothing they can do (or refrain from doing) that would worsen their fate.OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 8:21 pmTrue, there’s nothing that a demon can’t say...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 8:44 am There is nothing in this statement that a demon cannot say
In short the consequences of lying is no deterrant - and the True God evidently ALLOWS demons to lie. Like a prisoner escaped from "death row" they have nothing to lose and are determined to take as many humans with them to destruction. Their chief means of manipulation being to present themselves as holy benevolent angels, or even Almighty God Himself.
That Satan craves worship is clear from Jesus exchange with him in the desert, he of course failed to dupe /trick/tempt Jesus (Jesus knew who he was so there was no point in Satan pretending to be God to him (Jesus) but Jesus was no 14 year old child. Your child "prophet", already traumatized by those same spirits, was an empty defenseless vessel, he would have stood no chance against these experts at manipulation.
So again, what did these spirits / demons/devils present to you as PROOF that they were not lying about their identity?
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #45We'll talk about my mind another time, for now we are examining the "spirit" that you claim was Almighty God. My question for you is ...
1. Why did this spirit not clarify WHICH God they were claiming to be by identifying themselves with the Divine Name as the True God did with Moses?
Since the True God had identified himself to the Prophets of old by means of his Personal name, and accepted when asked to be presented to the people with that name, why did your "spirit" fail to do the same ?EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?†[...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Post #46I’m just following the Lord to share His messages to all, and proving the existence of God is beyond my duty, as a follower of God Almighty. Each of us, by our own deeds, is answerable to God in due time.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 11:04 amSince a demon can say all the so-called divine revelations you were lead to believe , to present the words themselves as proof the speaker was the True God is circular. What you have revealed the "spirit" said to you could well have (by your own admission) been a demon. The condemnation they face for lying about their identity is irrelevant since Satan and his demons have already been condemned and there is nothing they can do (or refrain from doing) that would worsen their fate.OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 8:21 pmTrue, there’s nothing that a demon can’t say...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Feb 11, 2026 8:44 am There is nothing in this statement that a demon cannot say
In short the consequences of lying is no deterrant - and the True God evidently ALLOWS demons to lie.
You’ve not witnessed anything about our personal experience with the Lord Jesus, how did you come up with your conclusion
‘ the True God evidently ALLOWS demons to lie?’
Jehovah’sWitnesses wrote:Like a prisoner escaped from "death row" they have nothing to lose and are determined to take as many humans with them to destruction. Their chief means of manipulation being to present themselves as holy benevolent angels, or even Almighty God Himself.
Have you been in the company of Satan and his devil? If not, where did you get this notion from?
You judge by your own wisdom apart from the wisdom of your Creator. And you know nothing about the child nor the angels that lived with him for approximately 28 years, so with Lord Jesus, who manifested in his mind to bring His good tidings to the world today, yet you speak as if you were God, who knows all things.Jehovah’sWitnesses wrote:That Satan craves worship is clear from Jesus exchange with him in the desert, he of course failed to dupe /trick/tempt Jesus (Jesus knew who he was so there was no point in Satan pretending to be God to him (Jesus) but Jesus was no 14 year old child. Your child "prophet", already traumatized by those same spirits, was an empty defenseless vessel, he would have stood no chance against these experts at manipulation.
Jesus is always beside you, though you don’t see Him yet. If I were you, I would come to Him and call on Him for the truth hereon.Jehovah’sWitnesses wrote:So again, what did these spirits / demons/devils present to you as PROOF that they were not lying about their identity?
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Post #47Jesus is not the bible, and He is not bound and limited by it (bible) and, most of all, by your mind.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 11:26 amWe'll talk about my mind another time, for now we are examining the "spirit" that you claim was Almighty God. My question for you is ...
1. Why did this spirit not clarify WHICH God they were claiming to be by identifying themselves with the Divine Name as the True God did with Moses?
Since the True God had identified himself to the Prophets of old by means of his Personal name, and accepted when asked to be presented to the people with that name, why did your "spirit" fail to do the same ?EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?†[...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.
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Identifying Himself as the Almighty God is more than enough for us.
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Post #48So what is enough for you is more important than what is enough for Almighty God? When Moses asked God who should I say you are ? did God say "Just tell them "Almight God" that's more than enough for me" is that what he said or did he say " , ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] ...Ito ang pangalan ?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 8:34 pmJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 11:26 amWe'll talk about my mind another time, for now we are examining the "spirit" that you claim was Almighty God. My question for you is ...
1. Why did this spirit not clarify WHICH God they were claiming to be by identifying themselves with the Divine Name as the True God did with Moses?
Since the True God had identified himself to the Prophets of old by means of his Personal name, and accepted when asked to be presented to the people with that name, why did your "spirit" fail to do the same ?EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?†[...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.
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https://www.jw.org/tl/library/video/Mag ... -pangalan/
Identifying Himself as the Almighty God is more than enough for us.
If your Spirit failed to do what The True God YHWH did is that not strong indication you were kn communication with an IMPOSTER?
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #49JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:37 amSo what is enough for you is more important than what is enough for Almighty God? When Moses asked God who e should I say you are ? did God say "Just tell them "Almight God" that's more than enough for me" is that what he said or did he say " , ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] ...Ito ang pangalan ?OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 8:34 pmJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 11:26 amWe'll talk about my mind another time, for now we are examining the "spirit" that you claim was Almighty God. My question for you is ...
1. Why did this spirit not clarify WHICH God they were claiming to be by identifying themselves with the Divine Name as the True God did with Moses?
Since the True God had identified himself to the Prophets of old by means of his Personal name, and accepted when asked to be presented to the people with that name, why did your "spirit" fail to do the same ?EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?†[...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.
LEARN MORE Video 4mins
https://www.jw.org/tl/library/video/Mag ... -pangalan/
Identifying Himself as the Almighty God is more than enough for us.
If your Spirit failed to do what The True God YHWH did is that not strong indication you were kn communication with an IMPOSTER?
Yours is purely an opinion since you’ve heard nothing yet from the Living God, whose name is Jesus.
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Post #50Yes, that is why it is important to test every spirit to see if they are from God.OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 5:38 amTry to think a million times, Capbook! If I took your notion, it would follow that the Eternal Father or Mighty God died because the son, whom Mary gave birth to, was also named Eternal Father, or Mighty God, or Immanuel. …(Isa 7:14; 9:6).Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 2:43 amOneJack you quote Bible verses to support your point, as you've said your belief only differs from the Bible on the way to salvation.OneJack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:41 amWhen can you realize that Jesus is the Almighty God and that He did not die, does not die, and will not die because He is the Everlasting Life? The Son of God, per se, was the one who died on the cross.
To quote Mat 1:25, the Son of Mary was named Jesus, as the Son named Jesus died, understandably it was Jesus that died.
As the "Son of God" is not a name but a title.
Mat 1:25Â but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.Â
And to know if they are of God, is to confess that the flesh named Jesus that died is from God.
1Jn 4:1Â Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.Â
1Jn 4:2Â By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;Â

