Let's consider the claimed 'ascension' tale

[Zzyzx]

There are serious reasons to doubt the authenticity of the story of Jesus rising up into the sky.

First: Many 'gods' are said to have 'ascended' or flown away into the sky. That is a common theme in ancient mythology, folklore, and religions. The bible tale is NOT original or unique -- but is just one of many similar tales.

Second: The Christian 'ascension' is described by only ONE gospel writer -- whose true identity is unknown to theologians and scholars. The writer of "Luke", whoever he was, admitted in his introduction that he was reporting what he heard from others. Thus, the ONE description of the 'resurrection' was written half a century later by someone who was not present to witness the 'event' but had heard about it from others.

Third: Would any rational person believe a recent claim of someone rising up into the sky if told by ONE person who admittedly just heard about it and was not present when it was supposed to occur?

[OneJack]

The Lord taught us

When you say 'the Lord taught us', do you mean he provided personal revelation to prophets,

It's like a teacher teaches his/her students. There were times in a Q&A session.

in which they wrote down for us to follow?

No! You have nothing to follow from what the Lord has taught us, except for you to decide to come to the Lord so that He may shepherd and guide you on what you must follow and put into practice for you to be saved and have eternal life.

Which in turn, would be what we read in the Bible?

It doesn't have to be that way because the Lord will be the one to shepherd you until the end; hence, no need to take anything from what the Lord has taught us.

Or, are you instead saying something completely different?

Yes, it is completely different because you don't have to take anything with what the LORD has taught us. Your decision to come to the Lord is more essential than those revelations from the Lord.

If so, please specify where and how this is exactly being taught?

The Lord has finished shepherding us in 2014, but His means of responding instantly to our call [on Him] continues to date. The way the Lord Jesus taught the apostles during His incarnation is similar to how the Lord taught us, except that He (the Lord) dwelt His fullness in the Son of God for approximately 33 years, without leaving the body of the Son of God.

And how you know this is not counterfeit in reality?

The Lord has proven Himself to us that He is the Almighty God, beyond reasonable doubt. He brought our spirits to the third heaven.

[POI]

The Lord has finished shepherding us in 2014

Why 2014?

[OneJack]

The Lord has finished shepherding us in 2014

Why 2014?

All I know is that He has given us what we need to become Christians.

[POI]

The Lord has finished shepherding us in 2014

Why 2014?

All I know is that He has given us what we need to become Christians.

Did he tell you that 2014 was it, other? I'm now confused?

[OneJack]

The Lord has finished shepherding us in 2014

Why 2014?

All I know is that He has given us what we need to become Christians.

Did he tell you that 2014 was it, other? I'm now confused?

The year 2014 has no significant meaning or negative connotation, as does the scene in the book of Acts when the Son of God was lifted and taken from the apostles, which signified that the Lord's personal and direct physical shepherding of His sheep, in this regard, is completed. But the Lord continues to respond to us tangibly every time we talk to Him through our minds, without moving our lips.

[POI]

The year 2014 has no significant meaning or negative connotation

Then why in the heck did you mention it in the first place and where exactly did you even get this number to begin with?

[OneJack]

Then why in the heck did you mention it in the first place and where exactly did you even get this number to begin with?

See above why I mentioned this. It was in that year that the Lord's physical shepherding came to an end.

[POI]

Then why in the heck did you mention it in the first place and where exactly did you even get this number to begin with?

See above why I mentioned this. It was in that year that the Lord's physical shepherding came to an end.

You stated ==> "the scene in the book of Acts when the Son of God was lifted and taken from the apostles, which signified that the Lord's personal and direct physical shepherding of His sheep, in this regard, is completed."

How did you get the year 2014?

[OneJack]

Then why in the heck did you mention it in the first place and where exactly did you even get this number to begin with?

See above why I mentioned this. It was in that year that the Lord's physical shepherding came to an end.

You stated ==> "the scene in the book of Acts when the Son of God was lifted and taken from the apostles, which signified that the Lord's personal and direct physical shepherding of His sheep, in this regard, is completed."

How did you get the year 2014?

I don't understand what you mean here. Let me try to rephrase to clarify what I'm saying about the year 2014. The Lord Jesus ended His physical shepherding to the apostles and disciples during His incarnation when He took the Son of God away from them; He lifted the Son of God and hid his body in the Ark of the Covenant beside Moses' body. To us in the Philippines, the Lord Jesus ended His physical shepherding [which started in 2001] in the calendar year 2014.

[POI]

I don't understand what you mean here.

Never mind, it's just another baseless and unfounded claim anyways....

Getting back to the meat-and-potatoes of this exchange... I had asked: "Why do you trust what the Bible says about who has or hasn't ascended into the sky?"

For which you responded: "Why would I trust the Bible when its account of who has ascended into the sky is incomplete? The Lord taught us that He made the people see the Son of God lifted until he was hidden in the clouds; He took the body of the Son of God and placed him inside the ark of the covenant, hidden somewhere in the Middle East, beside the body of Moses. This is why I believe the story of the Son of God when he was lifted and taken by the clouds is true."

To clarify here, when you state "the Lord taught us", do you mean what we read from the Bible, or other? And your statement also pre-assumes that a "Lord" actually exists. If I was under the impression that such a Lord exists, then I would not concern myself with whether or not a Jesus actually ascended into the sky, as his ascension is what is to prove that a Lord actually exists.