So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

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So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

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Presented here, so that we may have a place to start is one biochemist's (Dr, Sy Garte) journey from staunch atheist to firm believer: So, why are you a believer, or what would you need to become a believer in some Creator GOD.

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Re: So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

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Clownboat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:10 pm
Vilferatus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 3:29 pm If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
Thanks for asking!

In post 98, you brought up faith and then made the claim that atheism doesn't make any sense.
I then demonstrated what I believed to be true by showing you that faith is a requirement in order to believe that something false is true by providing you with examples. This wasn't challenged, therefore faith remains a poor path to arriving at truths until demonstrated otherwise.

As far as your claim that atheism doesn't make any logical sense, I demonstrated that you are an atheist yourself when it comes to all competing god concepts. If you feel that atheism doesn't make any logical sense, I became curious as to why you employ so much of it.

Then I ended up having discussions with AI in place of you, the person that brought up faith and atheism!

Let me know if you have any other questions.
You said I am an aitheist because I dont belive in multiple Gods, but only One, thats a flawd argument. I only need to believe in 1 God to be a theist... if you are unable to understand that... there is no point in debathing with you.

And you hace demonstrated nothing... you just claim stuff, create a conclusion from your own claims, and then say you demonstrated your claims...

LOL.

Lets see if you are gonna cry AI after this.

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Re: So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

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Vilferatus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 2:17 pm You said I am an aitheist because I dont belive in multiple Gods, but only One, thats a flawd argument. I only need to believe in 1 God to be a theist... if you are unable to understand that... there is no point in debathing with you.
Readers, allow me to provide what was actually said:

Post 101: "As far as atheism not making any sense, then I must ask why you are an atheist when it comes to every single god concept that is not your preferred one? You are practically an atheist yourself. An actual atheist just takes it one god further than you do. If atheism makes no sense, why do you have so much of it?"

As you can see, Vilferatus's complaints are ill founded and don't reflect a lack of understanding on my part.
And you hace demonstrated nothing... you just claim stuff, create a conclusion from your own claims, and then say you demonstrated your claims...
Readers, is that all I have done, or are lies and deceit creeping into these replies?
Lets see if you are gonna cry AI after this.
Why, this one reads as human?

What remains true is that Vilferatus is practically (see below) an atheist and that faith remains a poor path to arriving at truths.

practically
adverb
prac·​ti·​cal·​ly ˈprak-ti-k(ə-)lē
1
: in a practical manner
look practically at the problem
2
: almost, nearly
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/practically

I'm using 2 by the way.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

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If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

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