Angels or Aliens.

Argue for and against Christianity

Moderator: Moderators

PW364
Student
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2026 8:53 am

Angels or Aliens.

Post #1

Post by PW364 »

IMO Aliens are real, whether they are on this Planet, from another Planet or another Dimension. Alien Abduction is real. UFOs are real. There are 9 Orders of Angels/Fallen Angels. Some/all of them use UFOs. Probably the Fallen Angels are doing the Negative Abductions. The Bible cites Aliens as Angels. What is your opinion?


PW364
Student
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2026 8:53 am

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #11

Post by PW364 »

[Replying to Clownboat in post #10]

You could audition for Dumb and Dumber 4.

User avatar
Clownboat
Savant
Posts: 10443
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:42 pm
Has thanked: 1537 times
Been thanked: 1829 times

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #12

Post by Clownboat »

PW364 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2026 7:40 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #10]

You could audition for Dumb and Dumber 4.
What an odd way for you to fail to answer debate questions.

Please show that you speak the truth, that it is irrational and unethical to deny:
Alien abductions.
Alien Implants.
That peer review is owned by the government military.


Debate may not be for you....
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco

If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

PW364
Student
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2026 8:53 am

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #13

Post by PW364 »

I can easily explain any of your claims. I dont have the time to downshift. Its not my responsibility to educate you. The topic is aimed at fellow Christians who already know that Civilian Science claims are wrong. It asks if Angels in the Bible are what are known as Aliens today.

User avatar
Clownboat
Savant
Posts: 10443
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:42 pm
Has thanked: 1537 times
Been thanked: 1829 times

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #14

Post by Clownboat »

PW364 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2026 2:17 pm I can easily explain any of your claims.
No need. In debate, you are expected to explain your own claims.

Please show that you speak the truth, that it is irrational and unethical to deny:
Alien abductions.
Alien Implants.
That peer review is owned by the government military.


If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
Its not my responsibility to educate you.
This would be a strawman as no one has claimed that you have a responsibility to educate anyone. I will point out that you have so far failed to provide evidence for any of your claims you made in a debate setting.
The topic is aimed at fellow Christians who already know that Civilian Science claims are wrong.
I acknowledge that you feel that civilian science is wrong. Is it possible that having this belief is what allows you to find angels, demons, global floods, human hybrids, alien abductions, alien implants, bigfoot and peer review being owned by a government as being credible?

If the method that we call science is poor method, what would you argue should take its place?
It asks if Angels in the Bible are what are known as Aliens today.
I would answer this question if it was possible to answer, but it is not. Any claim made about either would be unfalsifiable claim and therefore pointless.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco

If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

PW364
Student
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2026 8:53 am

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #15

Post by PW364 »

[Replying to 1213 in post #7]

I think its more plausible than Angels having 6 wings and four different Animal faces. It could be symbolism but Michael Heiser thinks its literal

User avatar
1213
Savant
Posts: 13746
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 am
Location: Finland
Has thanked: 547 times
Been thanked: 529 times

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #16

Post by 1213 »

PW364 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2026 9:40 pm I think its more plausible than Angels having 6 wings and four different Animal faces. It could be symbolism but Michael Heiser thinks its literal
I don't think there is anything in the text indicating that it is symbolism. But maybe it is not exactly what we imagine it to mean.
My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view

Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html

PW364
Student
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2026 8:53 am

Re: Angels or Aliens.

Post #17

Post by PW364 »

[Replying to 1213 in post #16]

Pierre Sabak states the word Angel means Alien in Hebrew and derives from 'Sky Sailor'


Post Reply