What did Jesus create?

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snowbound
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What did Jesus create?

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It's my belief as well as the belief of many others that Jesus only created this 'earth' and this earth only. It's possible that he didn't even create this entire solar system, but God the Father did. God allowed Jesus to 'design' this planet and this planet only. I'm convinced that when we look up and see the trillions of 'suns' many of them have or likely have had inhabited 'earths' - and likely with humans on them. Possibly some of them have humans larger than us. Possible and in my view, likely the same.

No doubt God is still in the creation business. When this 'earth' reaches its end, God will create more 'earths' and my guess is they likely all FELL and needed a Savior. That Savior would likely be another fully human being like our Jesus was.

In my view it's illogical to believe we are the only human creation among trillions of stars AND trillions of galaxies.

https://www.thoughtco.com/galaxy-types- ... on-3072058

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Re: What did Jesus create?

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BruceLeiter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2026 9:28 am [Replying to NeutralZone in post #108]

No, @NeutralZone, John runs his description parallel with Genesis 1:1, which says that "in the beginning (of the creation,)" God creates it.

Gen 1:1  In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 

And the Word as a Person of God is the Agent of the Father involved "in the beginning" of that first creation:

Joh 1:2  He was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
John 1:2 is referring to Jesus' beginning, BruceLeiter. Scripture says Jehovah the Father does not have a beginning.

Psalm 90:2
"Before the mountains were born Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, From everlasting to everlasting, you are God.


Definition of everlasting:
1: lasting or enduring through all time : eternal
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everlasting

You are simply shooting yourself in the foot by quoting John 1:1 and John 1:2, both of which use the expression "beginning," with reference to Jesus Christ. The expression "beginning" can never be applied to Jehovah the Father because he does not have a beginning.


Anyone or anything that had a beginning did not always exist.

Definition of "beginning":
"1 : the point at which something begins : start"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beginning


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Re: What did Jesus create?

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[Replying to NeutralZone in post #110]

You may interpret the text the way you want to, @NeutralZone, but Genesis 1:1 is the heading to the rest of the chapter about the one creation of the universe, animals, and humans, where Moses doesn't mention anything about the creation of the angels.

His plural references to himself are a hint at the plurality of the divine nature, which is three Persons in one Creator-God, as is revealed clearly in the Gospel of John.

The preincarnate Jesus is not at all a created angel. The reason that Moses doesn't mention the creation of the angels is that his focus leads to the climax of the creation of humans.

I'm afraid that you are reading into the passage your own interpretation that it does not support.

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