Ye cannot serve God and mammon...

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Ye cannot serve God and mammon...neither can I be an atheist kiss-ass or theist kiss-ass or Texas kiss-ass and serve the truth.




"No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Luke 16:13

The Good Book??

Well, the good book is not always good in its advice.

But, neither is the good book always bad. (as the atheists like to portray.)

Seldom is 'a thing' all bad or all good.

And so it goes in the goods book's case.

But the dogmatic atheist discounts the bible as all bad, just as they do with ALL religions and spiritual studies.

For my discussion of this subject see:

'The conundrum of the mind manacled, spiritually sick, atheist.'

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.athe ... df88ba1701

When we are 'in love'...the emotion of love can blind us.

You see we cannot 'be in a religion' and be rational about that religion until one steps outside of the religion to look at it fairly to drop the love sickness.

And this 'love blindness' also extends to the dogmatic atheist that loves the religion of hate that fuels them.

See:

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/ ... opic=470.0


From: Alt Atheism

'Atheist for Christianity' writes:

"A toobis saying goes; "People must not flame their own kind. (V)"


V writes:

I appreciate your input 'Atheist for Christianity.'

Your comment reminded me of a Sunday morning radio talk I once heard.

I can't remember the exact preacher, maybe Jerry Falwell or possibly some other.

Anyway, he said he would stick by his family even when they are in the wrong and stand up for them as if they were right...because they were family.

The Baptist fundi audience all clapped.

This preacher implied family overrides truth...just as Christians should stick together as a family irrespective of what is true.

Sure, sometimes that may be the case in a family when minor things are at issue. But at some point honor and truth must override family loyalties, otherwise continuing of the path of lies will eventually lead the whole family to destruction.

The preacher's position was as an 'authoritarian on truth' and not as an authority of truth and can be summed up as: something is true because I say so, not because it really is so.

Always remember 'Atheist for Christianity,' the difference between an authority and an authoritarian is this.

An authority speaks from a place of truth and such speaks as an authority.

Whereas an authoritarian rules by fear and not by truth.

For the truth stands on it own and the authoritarian stands on their ego 'Atheist for Christianity.'

But this is how it is with most Christians and atheists as both camps are... DOGMATIC and IGNORANT of the truth.

How has history fueled such authoritarians?

With the doctrine of 'might makes right.'

When I heard the preacher tell his story, it spoke loud and clear about the real person behind the public facade.

It is good to remember that honor dies where the interest lies 'Atheist for Christianity.'

Which is just what you have demonstrated here with the blanket statement "People must not flame their own kind. (V)"

Where is your foundation of truth 'Atheist for Christianity?'

There is no foundation for truth...the only foundation is for family loyalty and truth be damned.

In any case, I flame no one 'Atheist for Christianity.'

I love the members of alt.atherism as if they were my family

BUT

I do comment on wring speech, wrong actions, wrong humanity...EVEN when it stems from within my family.

To do otherwise would be disservice to my family and the family would decay.

The bible reminds us:

"If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone?" Luke 11:11

Does this advice only exist as a truth if the myth of Jesus is not myth?

Or is this real and substantial wisdom irrespective of Jesus being real?

Think about what is said and not about who says what 'Atheist for Christianity.'

When you concentrate on people, you will lose the mindfulness on the real principles at hand in the discussion.

Years ago, I was told at alt.atheism if I shut up, tow the line, agreed with the atheists on all points, all transgressions would be forgiven me 'Atheist for Christianity.'

Since public opinion is not the same as truth, my policy is not to be swayed by threats.

Flaming, filth, profanities...they all roll off me like water off a ducks back.

As such, I am not a kiss ass to the atheists, not any other group for that matter.

If the atheists give me something positive to write about I do.

If the atheists give me something negative to write about I do

I can go left easily as easily as I can go right.

Sure I comment on some members.

But I comment on their actions and not on their personalties.

Let me give you another example 'Atheist for Christianity.'

While watching an old episode of Boston Legal this same subject came up when the Boston lawyers found themselves in Texas appeal court defending a criminal that was to be executed in a couple of days.

Besides shedding doubt on the plaintiffs case, the Boston team brought up the fact that Texas led the nation in wrongful executions that have been proven to be mistakes and asked the courts for short time to reconsider this case since they had some new evidence to present.

The defendants attorneys told the court that Texas accounted for 50% of the executions whereas the other 49 states accounted for the other 50%. So Texas was presented as a trigger happy death sentence state riddled with mistaken executions. (Remember it is a TV show, so do not hold me accountable for real life exact figures.)

What did one prejudiced appeal judge beat down the Boston defense team with?

He angrily told them:

"I advise you not to talk about the great state of Texas."

The panel of juges closed their mind to the discussion and let the execution stand.

Am I a proponent for banning the death penalty?

No...I am a proponent to get at the truth the best we can in a reasonable fashion.

People say they are interested in truth, but alas they are not really interested in truth, they are only interested in moving forward with their ego driven agenda.

You see, the judge who was supposed to uphold the law and put reason above passion seemed to be getting two of the 'T' words confused.

He put 'Texas' above the 'Truth.'

Peace and contentment is not limited to any one religion and are open to all...even at alt.atheism.

Seek truth and not ego 'Atheist for Christianity' and you can find inner peace as well.

An antique English silver goblet I once saw in a museum said it best.

It's long dead, previous owner had it inscribed ...'Honor Above All'

The truth is that which does not change 'Atheist for Christianity.'




Take care,


V (Male)

Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher

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Atheists don't have much to do with Mammon as I understand him.

George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the oil companies, however, have plenty to do with Mammon -- they kill people for money -- and they were elected by the evangelicals. Go figure.

Atheists aren't the problem. Idiot interpretations of religion are.

I say this being a person of strong faith.