The 10 sins

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The 10 sins

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If god loved you why would he give you 10 things not to do???
honestly :?
if you do them you get sent to hell :shock:
yup that is love :-s

as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????

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TheHate wrote:If god loved you why would he give you 10 things not to do???
honestly :?
if you do them you get sent to hell :shock:
yup that is love :-s

as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????
the 10 commandments serve an important purpose to the general society. in an age where the vast majority of states had no understanding of a secular seperation, the chruch was the main lawmaker. these commandments set the basic rules regardign civility and safety of the community. a love and understanding of god may get you to heaven even if you are not constantly acting for the betterment of society.

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If god loved you why would he give you 10 things not to do???
To me it seems to be the other way around. If God did not love us, He would have not given us the law (commandments). Without the law how could we know that it is wrong to steal, lie, murder, etc...

Romans 3:20-23

20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. 21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

if you do them you get sent to hell
yup that is love
It's not a question if we do them

James 2:10

For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

but whats the point of them??????????
Psalm 19:7

The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul. The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy, making wise the simple..


Don't buy into the just believe in Jesus and you'll be saved. Just believing is not enough. Only when we understand that God's Law has been broken can we come to salvation. We should only repent if we think we've broken the law. Anything less would be a false conversion.

You have some great questions. I would encourage you to read the book of John

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i think i will give that a try
thank you so much for the help :)

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Thanks for the advise, I hope it helps me :)

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Most of the Commandments make pretty good sense as basic principles of civil and secular law, for people of any religion or none.

Commandment #1 only makes sense if there is a God, of course, and even then it's only between you and God.

Worshiping idols is pretty stupid in any case, but as long as you're not cutting anybody's heart out or whatever, I don't think it's a big threat to civilized society..

A day off once a week is a good idea, and forcing somebody to work 7 days a week ought to be against the law.

The next 6 pretty much make sense whether there is a God or not, and are found in the laws of most societies.

#10 is a bit more problematic. As long as you don't do anything about coveting somebody's wife or car or whatever, the law wouldn't logically be interested; but it's probably not a good idea to obsess about it.

If you're going to have only 10 laws, at least 7 of these are a pretty good start. Add a few more about assault and being a public nuisance and so on, and you've got a pretty good foundation for a legal system.

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cnorman, i'm not hunting you down, im supporting:
cnorman18 wrote:Most of the Commandments make pretty good sense as basic principles of civil and secular law, for people of any religion or none.

Commandment #1 only makes sense if there is a God, of course, and even then it's only between you and God.
most people realize that the israelites were a minority at the time. many other gods were worshiped by other cultures (eg. the egyptians), and God would serve as a unifying aspect of their society.
Worshiping idols is pretty stupid in any case, but as long as you're not cutting anybody's heart out or whatever, I don't think it's a big threat to civilized society..
most people realize that the israelites were a minority at the time. many other gods were worshiped by other cultures (eg. the egyptians), and God would serve as a unifying aspect of their society.
many people believe these idols to be for other cultures.
A day off once a week is a good idea, and forcing somebody to work 7 days a week ought to be against the law.
i belive in deut. when the mention this they specifically say that it is to rest their oxen, slaves, etc.
The next 6 pretty much make sense whether there is a God or not, and are found in the laws of most societies.
#10 is a bit more problematic. As long as you don't do anything about coveting somebody's wife or car or whatever, the law wouldn't logically be interested; but it's probably not a good idea to obsess about it.
a little selflessness never hurt anybody
If you're going to have only 10 laws, at least 7 of these are a pretty good start. Add a few more about assault and being a public nuisance and so on, and you've got a pretty good foundation for a legal system.

cnorman18

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zepper899 wrote:cnorman, i'm not hunting you down, im supporting:
I can see that; thanks.

No hard feelings, Zep; you're one of the good guys in my book, even if we disagree about God and guns.

Hey, it's only the Internet anyway. It's not like it's real life...

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If your parents loved you why would they give you things not to do???
honestly :?
if you do them you get sent to your room :shock:
yup that is love :-s

as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????

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MikeH wrote:If your parents loved you why would they give you things not to do???
honestly :?
if you do them you get sent to your room :shock:
yup that is love :-s

as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????
Who's parents set up a situation where if they make a mistake, which they will all do, they will end up in torment for the rest of their lives? Yup, that is luv.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John

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