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hay,,, HOW ARE YOU?
because i converted to islam religion i want to tell you why islam !!

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Let’s talk frankly. Almost never do non-Muslims study Islam until they have first exhausted the religions of their exposure. Only after they have grown dissatisfied with the religions familiar to them, meaning Judaism, Christianity and all the fashionable “-isms”—Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism (and, as my young daughter once added, “tourism”)—do they consider Islam.

Perhaps other religions do not answer the big questions of life, such as “Who made us?” and “Why are we here?” Perhaps other religions do not reconcile the injustices of life with a fair and just Creator. Perhaps we find hypocrisy in the clergy, untenable tenets of faith in the canon, or corruption in the scripture. Whatever the reason, we perceive shortcomings in the religions of our exposure, and look elsewhere. And the ultimate “elsewhere” is Islam.

Now, Muslims would not like to hear me say that Islam is the “ultimate elsewhere.” But it is. Despite the fact that Muslims comprise one-fourth to one-fifth of the world’s population, non-Muslim media smears Islam with such horrible slanders that few non-Muslims view the religion in a positive light. Hence, it is normally the last religion seekers investigate.

Another problem is that by the time non-Muslims examine Islam, other religions have typically heightened their skepticism: If every “God-given” scripture we have ever seen is corrupt, how can the Islamic scripture be different? If charlatans have manipulated religions to suit their desires, how can we imagine the same not to have happened with Islam?

The answer can be given in a few lines, but takes books to explain. The short answer is this: There is a God. He is fair and just, and He wants us to achieve the reward of paradise. However, God has placed us in this worldly life as a test, to weed out the worthy from the unworthy. And we will be lost if left to our own devices. Why? Because we don’t know what He wants from us. We can’t navigate the twists and turns of this life without His guidance, and hence, He has given us guidance in the form of revelation.

Sure, previous religions have been corrupted, and that is one of the reasons why we have a chain of revelation. Ask yourself: wouldn’t God send another revelation if the preceding scriptures were impure? If preceding scriptures were corrupted, humans would need another revelation, to keep upon the straight path of His design.

So we should expect preceding scriptures to be corrupted, and we should expect the final revelation to be pure and unadulterated,for we cannot imagine a loving God leaving us astray. What we can imagine is God giving us a scripture, and men corrupting it; God giving us another scripture, and men corrupting it again … and again, and again. Until God sends a final revelation He promises to preserve until the end of time.

Muslims consider this final revelation to be the Holy Quran. You consider it … worth looking into. So let us return to the title of this article: Why Islam? Why should we believe that Islam is the religion of truth, the religion that possesses the pure and final revelation?

“Oh, just trust me.”

Now, how many times have you heard that line? A famous comedian used to joke that people of different cities cuss one another out in different ways. In Chicago, they cuss a person out this way, in Los Angeles they cuss a person out that way, but in New York they just say, “Trust me.”

So don’t trust me—trust our Creator. Read the Quran, read books and study good websites. But whatever you do, get started, take it seriously, and pray for our Creator to guide you.

Your life may not depend on it, but your soul most definitely does.




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Wow -- cherry-poppin' heaven.
Not for the girls or the guys that don't like blood on their wang.

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carolineislands wrote: Wow -- cherry-poppin' heaven. Now there's a religion for ya.

LOL
Can you think of any better way to sell a contrived mythology to a male dominated warrior culture which valued female virginity for it monetary value?

That old pedophile Muhammad wasn't a prophet, but he was a grand social manipulator.

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upallnite wrote:
Wow -- cherry-poppin' heaven.
Not for the girls or the guys that don't like blood on their wang.
I can understand the animal instinct of preferring virgins, but for the life of me, I don't see the advantage of deflowering virgins in Heaven. Do they lose their experience while their hymens regenerate? Are we stuck with the virgins, or is there a choice in the matter?

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Are women in heaven rewarded with virgin males? Would they want virgin males?

Women in our culture seem more realistic in this regard -- often expressing a desire for a man "who knows what he is doing". Why would anyone seek partners that know nothing? Why would men desire a succession of uninformed, inexperienced partners?

I have never seen ANY reason for appeal in virginity (male or female). What is the point of emphasizing a lack of experience and knowledge? Is it insecurity about one's ability to "compete" with previous experiences???? Is it a desire for exclusive ownership?

I consider the emphasis on virginity an affront to women -- similar to the glorification of teenage "beauty" as an affront to mature beauty – both are very temporary and of no great importance.

It is more rational, in my opinion, to de-emphasize "beauty", youth and virginity and place emphasis upon qualities that last a lifetime (rather than one-shot deals). Integrity, honor, intelligence, loyalty, accomplishment, self-confidence, and positive self-image might be a good start.
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Zzyzx wrote:.
Are women in heaven rewarded with virgin males? Would they want virgin males?
Good point. I don't think I've ever heard an explanation of what lies in wait for Muslim women after death. Perhaps they become the virgins. Hmmm yes...heavenly.
Women in our culture seem more realistic in this regard -- often expressing a desire for a man "who knows what he is doing". Why would anyone seek partners that know nothing? Why would men desire a succession of uninformed, inexperienced partners?
Ego massage? Or to expand a little, perhaps the man hopes that if the woman has no prior sexual experience, she is unlikely to know if he is any good or not.
I have never seen ANY reason for appeal in virginity (male or female). What is the point of emphasizing a lack of experience and knowledge? Is it insecurity about one's ability to "compete" with previous experiences???? Is it a desire for exclusive ownership?
Possibly a combination of the two. Also, I believe there to be a certain amout of chest-pounding attached to the idea of taking a woman's virginity. 'I was there first'.
I consider the emphasis on virginity an affront to women -- similar to the glorification of teenage "beauty" as an affront to mature beauty – both are very temporary and of no great importance.
It was ever thus. Both I believe are related to the notion of sexual inexperience as a desirable quality in women.
It is more rational, in my opinion, to de-emphasize "beauty", youth and virginity and place emphasis upon qualities that last a lifetime (rather than one-shot deals). Integrity, honor, intelligence, loyalty, accomplishment, self-confidence, and positive self-image might be a good start.
As an ugly non-virgin over 30, I tend to think your opinion is an excellent one.
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Dans tes ailes blanches,
Et je vole,
Et je coule
Comme une plume.''''

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Fallibleone wrote:As an ugly non-virgin over 30, I tend to think your opinion is an excellent one.
As an ugly male who has been non-virgin for more than half a century, I see absolutely NO reason to glorify a lack of knowledge and/or experience. Virgin fixation seems to be characteristic of insecure males as a means to conceal their own lack of experience and/or ability.

I read somewhere that the majority of suicide bombers were frustrated young males who could not find or sustain a satisfying relationship or find a wife. That makes sense to me because if a man has a warm, loving, satisfying relationship it seems unlikely that he would be anxious to blow himself up in quest of the promise of virgins in an “afterlife”.

Regarding social emphasis on beauty; for a very pretty young woman I wrote “The Curse of Cute” – an essay on the grave disservice our society does by fawning over cute children, youth and young adults. Some of the least worthy people of either gender I have known are those who were “beautiful children” and “cute kids”. They usually seem to became accustomed to having people jump to please them – and often do not make a successful transition to being a self-sufficient adult -- and often fail to develop personal skills and desirable characteristics. Many “rode on their beauty” and learned little about how to get along with people or how to function effectively as a contributing member of society.

When physical attractiveness wanes or they go into environments where much than beauty is demanded, they can become disillusioned and bitter because their “tricks” no longer work. One of the saddest examples I know of personally was a woman past middle age but who had obviously been beautiful as a young woman, but who was far beyond cute stage when I knew her. She still had all the cute moves and mannerisms (and even the dress), but it no longer produced results she expected – and she was bitter. She couldn’t seem to understand why everyone had stopped catering to her.

Perhaps our society would do well by its youth to emphasize factors other than youth, sex and virginity. I would suggest stress upon analytical thinking, people skills and relationship skills. Marketplace skills should probably come after these were mastered.
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firstly .. iam sorry because i did not answer your questions because i always get the non-christian forum

will .. there is no blood in heaven
- they created in heaven .
- you can marry your wife with them if your wife get the heaven too
- depends in your life .. may you get 10 or 20 or 30 or .... girls
- they are 14 years old and when you get the heaven you will be 33 years old
- they always virgins with no pain or blood
- you can eat any thing you think about in heaven with no urine or stool
- depends on you when you were alive means may you get paradise or may you will be nearby mohammed (pbuh)

so we must do our best to get the best

i am sorry again if i late you will always find me in non-christian

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- they created in heaven .
Bem-bots?
- you can marry your wife with them if your wife get the heaven too
I don't think my wife would like that very much. I guess monogamy doesn't mean very much to you.
- depends in your life .. may you get 10 or 20 or 30 or .... girls
That is alot of bem-bots running around.
- they are 14 years old and when you get the heaven you will be 33 years old
Since I am not attracted to children I guess your heaven has nothing to offer me.
33? What about all of us early balding guys. I can't get my hair back? Heck I started to have knee problems at 24. Your heaven would suck for most of us.
- they always virgins with no pain or blood
Then in what since of the word are they virgins?
- you can eat any thing you think about in heaven with no urine or stool
I would rather not be a glutton.
- depends on you when you were alive means may you get paradise or may you will be nearby mohammed (pbuh)
I really don't care about my proximity to mohanned.

It seams your heaven has nothing to offer me. Heck, I wouldn't even want to be around the people that would want to be in your heaven.

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Re: Islamic emphasis on female virgins.


Islamic culture derives many of it's social conventions from ancient Arabia. Islam is literally an anachronism since most of the similar conventions throughout the world were discarded through the past 1400 years of human evolution. The emphasis on female virginity is one of these anachronisms which stems from the misogynistic system of daughter selling.

In much of the ancient Mid-East, a daughters only worth was in her possible bride price. This cultural reality turned the hymen into a "tamper seal" like those found on modern consumer products. Any potential husband wanted assurance that he was buying an "untampered" product. From this arose the tradition of displaying the "bloody wedding sheet", the need for "honor killing", and the Islamic mythology of "virgins in paradise". Though Islam is not the only culture to have practiced these misogynistic ideas, Islam is one of the only cultures to maintain the focus both religiously and socially into the modern era.

Simply stated the Islam focus on virginity stems from the use of females as a male consumer product. The hymen is the "freshness and tamper seal". Rewarding virgins in paradise is a representation of misogyny in Islam. Islam does not consider the viewpoint of the "virgins" in this relationship. It is a given that these females are essentially sex slaves. As stated previously, a traditional age of the houri is 14. This is a great insight into the horrible nature of Islam.

Anyone who accepts this as a religious belief is also making a statement about their current social beliefs and view toward women. There is a good reason why women are treated like property in Islamic countries. Islam considers women property.

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…I read an Urdu book on Islâmic legal rulings. It featured questions sent in by people, and answers from knowledgeable scholars. Only one interested me out of the whole thing. The answer given, as usual, proved utterly unsatisfactory and with no reference to the subject of the question. But the question moved me. I can’t express in English that trembling doubt, that sense of unfairness, that longing to know the truth, but fearing the answer.

It simply featured a woman asking the veracity of the claim that righteous men would receive their reward of multitudes of virgins in paradise. She loved her husband and believed strongly in monogamy. Why should she have to share her husband with other women? Then she went on to ask if this situation HAD TO happen — probably believing (hoping) that her husband would remain satisfied with only her in Heaven.

Poor thing :(.
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