Anonymous Vs. the Church of Scientology

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Is Scientology a religion??

No its a business posing as a religion for tax exempt status.
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Yes , LRH created a real religion.
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Anonymous Vs. the Church of Scientology

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This message is brought to you on behalf of Anonymous.

We made this topic to help spread awareness about Anonymous and its fight against the Church of Scientology.
This post is also here to inform you about Operation Reconnect, April 12th.

Our Message:


Operation Reconnect:


For more information about Anonymous check out:
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Post by Beto »

I find the expression "created a real religion" quite amusing.

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Re: Anonymous Vs. the Church of Scientology

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Anonymous legion wrote:This message is brought to you on behalf of Anonymous.

We made this topic to help spread awareness about Anonymous and its fight against the Church of Scientology.
This post is also here to inform you about Operation Reconnect, April 12th.

Our Message:


Operation Reconnect:


For more information about Anonymous check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

Film about Scientology if you are not familiar with it:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid= ... 9887248236

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What do YOU think of the Church of Scientology?

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I say more power to them as long as they operate within the confines of the law. You go, Tom! :P

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Indeed ,

L. Ron Hubbards own son, L. Ron Hubbard Jr., was the Executive Secretary
of the Church of Scientology.
L. Ron Hubbard Jr. broke away from the Church in
1959 due to his fathers autocratic and arbitrary control of Scientology which, he
claimed, often led to violence. L. Ron Hubbard Jr. began to be disturbed by his
own participation in these affairs and finally was persuaded by his wife to leave. To
avoid Church of Scientology harassment he changed his name to Ronald DeWolf
in 1972. In a sworn affidavit, he testified:


"My father has always held out Scientology
and auditing to be based purely on science and
not on religious belief or faith. We regularly
promised and distributed publications with
scientific guarantees. This was, and has always
been, common practice.

My father and I created a religious front only for tax purposes and
legal protection from fraud Claims. We almost
always told nearly everyone that Scientology
was really science, not a religion, but that the
religious front was created to deal with the
government."

-- Ronald DeWolf a.k.a. L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.
(son of L. Ron Hubbard),

Affidavit in Schaick v.
Church of Scientology, US District Court Mass.,
No. 79-2491

According to L. Ron Hubbard Jr. and dozens of ex-members, the Church is
continuing to follow the aggressive policies that L. Ron Hubbard enacted before
his death on January 24th,1986. David Miscavige, Chairman of the Board of the
Religious Technology Center, is the current "leader" of Scientology. Miscavige was
good friends with L. Ron Hubbard during the latter part of his life and exhibits
many of the same paranoid, aggressive and unstable personality traits as his
predecessor

"He is a fraud and has always been a fraud"
Ron Dewolf , speaking about his father .


In regard to the confines of the law ,Scientology has a long, well-documented history of criminal activities which continue to this present day .
Here are but 2 examples , thousands more are available by using google.


OPERATION FREAKOUT

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"Operation Freakout, also known as Operation PC Freakout, was the name given by the Church of Scientology to a covert plan
intended to have the US author and journalist Paulette Cooper imprisoned or committed to a mental institution.
The plan was meant to eliminate the perceived threat that Cooper posed to the Church and obtain revenge for her publication in 1971 of a highly critical book,
The Scandal of Scientology.

"In its initial form Operation Freakout consisted of three different plans:

1. First, a woman was to imitate Paulette Coopers voice and
make telephone threats to Arab consulates in New York.

2. Second, a threatening letter was to be mailed to an Arab consulate in such a fashion
that it would appear to have been done by Paulette Cooper (who is Jewish).

3. Third, a Scientologist volunteer was to impersonate Paulette Cooper at a laundrette
and threaten the President and then the Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

A second Scientologist would thereafter inform the FBI of the threat."[2]
The Church sent bomb threats they composed on her typewriter to link her to false crimes, they posted her phone number in public restrooms, and signed her up for pornographic mailing lists. The FBI exposed the Scientology plot to frame Paulette (which she was initially arrested for) after they obtained the Freakout documents during a raid of the Scientology offices in connection to another church crime entitled Operation Snow White [more on this later]. The signs of the vicious struggle to retain her sanity were quite visible.

OPERATION SNOW WHITE

High-ranking Scientology executives were convicted of extremely serious
crimes in the United States for breaking into government offices and stealing
documents. This was known as "Operation: Snow White"

Founder L. Ron Hubbard was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in
that case, and the defendants stated in their stipulation of evidence that, at
all times, he acted as supervisor of the illegal activities. Hubbards own wife
was arrested and imprisoned as part of the FBI raid
Scientology itself was convicted of similar crimes in Canada. When
Scientology then tried to destroy the reputation of the prosecutor in the
case, they were hit with the biggest libel fine in Canadian history. This
eventually resulted in a large police raid of the Church of Scientology
in Toronto, 3 March to 4 March 1983.

The R. v. Church of Scientology of Toronto case began 1991-04-23, resulting in seven members being convicted, and two convictions of criminal Breach of the Public Trust against the church itself.

L. Ron Hubbard was convicted of fraud in France. He remained a
fugitive for the rest of his life.

Operation Snow White was the LARGEST infiltration
of the United States Government in US history.



More info at http://www.xenu.net/archive/go/ops/go732/go732.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._v._Chur ... of_Toronto

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I have had a run in with Scientology myself over the past few months. I am not just reading their Dianetics book, which I do question as "scientific" myself, whatever that means, but also talking to a few over the phone. It isn't just about the money, although probably the majority of it is. But I also question the "technology", if anyone has read the book knows what that means. Call it mind control, cult, whatever, people shell out thousands of dollars for it and are told to believe whatever hubbard says, even if it means believing that everyone else is a liar when they speak bad about scientology or dianetics.

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I think it is awesome that there is a highly capable group of people educating the public about what is an obviously dangerous cult. I had no idea and really didn't care about scientology until my husband ran across some anon videos on youtube. I started really paying attention and I must say I am shocked that scientology has been able to do such horrible things without consequence. Thankyou anon.

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Re: Anonymous Vs. the Church of Scientology

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Anonymous legion wrote:This message is brought to you on behalf of Anonymous.

We made this topic to help spread awareness about Anonymous and its fight against the Church of Scientology.
This post is also here to inform you about Operation Reconnect, April 12th.

Our Message:


Operation Reconnect:


For more information about Anonymous check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

Film about Scientology if you are not familiar with it:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid= ... 9887248236

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What do YOU think of the Church of Scientology?

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Expect Us.
I'd say that they are still technically a religion. They are far and away the most ridiculous one I can think of, but they still have a unified system of beliefs concerning the creation of humanity (however ridiculous it may be). This makes them a religion, even if it is painstakingly obvious that Hubbard made every word up. I would have to wonder why religion as a whole is worthy of tax exemption, but Scientology is a religion and whatever rules apply to other religions apply to it.

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It's both a business and a man-made religion.

Business because Hubbard created it to make money. He was quoted as saying the best way to make a fortune is to create your own religion.

Man Made religion because... well because all religions are man made. It's just that Hubbard's sounds a lot more like his science fiction novels than standard religion.

Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.

Prayer is like rubbing an old bottle and hoping that a genie will pop out and grant you three wishes.

There is much about this world that is mind boggling and impressive, but I see no need whatsoever to put it down to magical super powered beings.


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Post #9

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OnceConvinced wrote:It's both a business and a man-made religion.

Business because Hubbard created it to make money. He was quoted as saying the best way to make a fortune is to create your own religion.

Man Made religion because... well because all religions are man made. It's just that Hubbard's sounds a lot more like his science fiction novels than standard religion.
Old religions sound like fantasy. New ones sound like science fiction.

TC

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Thought Criminal wrote: Old religions sound like fantasy. New ones sound like science fiction.

TC
Not completely. There exists a society "Christians for the Cloning of Jesus" who want to isolate his DNA from that Turin cloth, I don't know the English name. No more or less ridiculous than Scientology, I would say.
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