Was Hitler a pro-choice (i.e. Hitler's choice) Darwinist ?

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Was Hitler a pro-choice (i.e. Hitler's choice) Darwinist ?

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One can be Darwinist and not be Hitlerian, one can be pro-choice but not the Dictator. But pro-choiceism has resulted in at least a 6 times greater holocaust and 7 times longer in the USA. So far

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piglet17 wrote:One can be Darwinist and not be Hitlerian, one can be pro-choice but not the Dictator. But pro-choiceism has resulted in at least a 6 times greater holocaust and 7 times longer in the USA. So far
Hitler was a christian...is it possible to be a "darwinist" at the same time as being a christian?
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piglet17 wrote:One can be Darwinist and not be Hitlerian, one can be pro-choice but not the Dictator. But pro-choiceism has resulted in at least a 6 times greater holocaust and 7 times longer in the USA. So far

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Hitler wasn't Christian

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Though 2 leads to asking 2: What's a Christian ?

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piglet17 wrote:Though 2 leads to asking 2: What's a Christian ?
What's a Darwinist? And what does evolutionary theory have to do with pro-choice?

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piglet17 wrote:Though 2 leads to asking 2: What's a Christian ?
What's a Darwinist? And what does evolutionary theory have to do with pro-choice?
You see, a 'Darwinist' is someone who accept 'evolution' . and piglet doesn't like the TOE, and abortion, so he is throwing in a comparison to hitler , because Hitler is 'evil'.

All one big logical fallacy, with an appeal to emotionalism.
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Funny questions 5-6

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5 What's a Darwinist?
An Evolutionist


what does evolutionary theory have to do with pro-choice?
What does your question have to do with the OP ?


6 piglet doesn't like the TOE, and abortion, so he is throwing in a comparison to hitler , because Hitler is 'evil'.

To the contrary: piglet's comparing them to Hitler since Hitler believed in abortion of "defectives" and Hitler was Darwinist


All one big logical fallacy,
How so ?
Is 6 saying Hitler wasn't Evolutionist ?
Didn't support abortion of ones he chose ?


with an appeal to emotionalism.

If 6 is getting emotional, please don't blame it on me.
Perhaps, blame it on yourself, or try to be calm.
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piglet17 wrote:
6 piglet doesn't like the TOE, and abortion, so he is throwing in a comparison to hitler , because Hitler is 'evil'.

To the contrary: piglet's comparing them to Hitler since Hitler believed in abortion of "defectives" and Hitler was Darwinist
Hitler has been passed to and fro' between various groups for decades, none of which are thrilled to accept him, oddly enough.

All one big logical fallacy,
How so ?
Is 6 saying Hitler wasn't Evolutionist ?
Didn't support abortion of ones he chose ?
What's with the numbers? I can be pretty dense sometimes, I know, but still...

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piglet wrote:5
Furrowed Brow wrote:What's a Darwinist?
An Evolutionist
Thank you for clearing that up. So you mean someone who subscribes to theory of evolution that involves such ideas as common descent.
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Furrowed Brow wrote:what does evolutionary theory have to do with pro-choice?
What does your question have to do with the OP ?
Well you presented the following couple of sentences as what I think is meant something like a logical argument.

You mention a Darwinist, Hitlerain, pro-choicer and dictator all in one sentence. A Remarkable feat. Now I can see why a believer in evolutionary theory would not be a follower of Hitler. And I can see why someone who advocates pro-choice would not be a dictator. And I understand though do not agree with your implicit comparison of the Jewish holocaust to abortion. But I do not understand any connection between belief in evolution and pro-choice.

As I read it you have said:

Someone can be a Darwinist and not a Hitlerian. (We call them Nazis).
Someone can be a pro-choicer and not a dictator.
The holocaust was the result of Hitler.
Pro-choice has resulted in more death than the holocaust

So I think you are saying being pro-choice is a bit like being a Nazi. I disagree but if we run fast and loose with the logic and the semantics I can see how you might get there.

But Darwinists? How did you get believers in evolution in that sentence? Maybe you could break the argument down for me?

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Thank you for clearing that up

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You're welcome.
As far as 4 nouns or adjectives in 1 sentence, thanks for your congratulation.
Though i don't think it's 'specially remarkable. U too pulled it off. Congratulations to you too, if you want them.
Strictly i don't compare the Jewish holocaust to abortion. And i imagine Jewish fetuses are executed by abortion also. What i explicitly wrote is that Hitler's holocaust of Jews is much smaller than Roe v Wade's holocaust of innocent life since 1973.
In regard to connection between belief in Evolution and choice-to-abort, since Hitler held to both, maybe he could've told us. If we asked him.
In regard to "pro-choice is a bit like being a Nazi," if you regard human fetuses to be put to death as either guilty or nonhuman, then you'd be right, my logic's "fast and loose." Which means your logic'd be "slow and tight." Kinda like Hitler's Evolutionary logic that if Jews are subhuman and guilty, then we can't compare their holocaust to the abortion holocaust.


But if both Hitler plus you were somehow right (if i read you correctly), that neither Jews nor unwanted human fetuses are innocent humans: then both are nonholocausts.

Thanks for your thoughtful post.
Lastly, if you're perplexed how Darwin could believe in Evolution, or be used as synonym for "Evolution" : could it be because he initiated or popularized the theory of Evolution ?
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