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Racism (!!!)

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The word Racism is generally used as a negative, in the same way National Socialist (Nazi) or Fascist would be, even if these are just political stances. The built in dictionary I use (WordWeb) defines Racism as: *The prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races.

Now, I hold this to be wrong. The main problem is PREJUDICE in this sentence. So what do we have for the ones not being prejudiced? Well, there is no word for it, so obviously we need to use this word, but explain there is no prejudice(m) in it, but just factual content, that is, if anyone would consider themselves superior towards another race.


Now, lets look at the facts of our Current 'races' in the world, I will just refer to Caucasian ('White'), Negro ('Black') and Asiatic ('Darkish').

Now many of our hillbilly friends in the south consider themselves 'superior' to does we refer to as afro-american. This of course can be discarded immediately as our hillbilly inbreads usually cant find their own country on a map, and know nothing about evolution, have a belief in a god, and other obscure uneducated areas of their lives. But are Whites superior to Blacks?

Well, it depends on how you see it. Evolution does not make anything 'superior', nor is there a 'aim' upwards, but just change in the enviroment. Why are White people more Intelligent then Blacks? It seems that when we evolved from our African ancestors and came a colder climate, our intelligence also rose (slowly) as we got a chance to depend more on our environment, compared to Africa where it was warmer and easier to cope. More demand from us, seemed to have made the European ancestors superior (Ah, but wait, Not SUPERIOR, but rather, better adapted to THEIR environment, ah, see? Lets not fall in the trap here).


Continuing looking at the negros, we find that they could be taught what we know, which can be seen in the afro-american society. You may of course point out that there is more criminality, violence etc in these societies compared to the white ones, this should not be neglected, or simple denied: this is just how it is.

Now, if a dog can be taught to be like us, can it become SUPERIOR to us?

It seems so, as the Asian societies have, after gotten 'white' technology, used the one thing that was a negative in the great whole, that is, the amount of population, and surpassed the white (advanced) societies. And now, the Asian societies ARE superior, in just the right use of the word, compared to the 'white' ones (western).


And what about the negros? Africa is unstable, and the only societies there that are 'civilized' and 'works' in our intellectual way, is the past colonies, the rest, civil war, violence and crime, with few exceptions.

Does this mean whites are superior? No, it means that our societies DEMAND a higher intellect, which the negros do not have (as seen in Africa by factual basis), but they, on the other hand, have the benefit of being MORE ADAPTED to the African environment. But as this is 2008, with all the technology we created, completely useless in the big whole, as we evolved away from this physical need.


So am I a Racist (in the negative way)?
Or simple pointing out fact but it has become to 'sensitive''? (Everything is based on fact here). Well, I am certainly not PREJUDICED, but I do not ignore FACT. And this topic, is certainly one of the biggest Taboos around.


So what will happen now?

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JamesEarl2 wrote:The word Racism is generally used as a negative, in the same way National Socialist (Nazi) or Fascist would be, even if these are just political stances. The built in dictionary I use (WordWeb) defines Racism as: *The prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races.

Now, I hold this to be wrong. The main problem is PREJUDICE in this sentence. So what do we have for the ones not being prejudiced? Well, there is no word for it, so obviously we need to use this word, but explain there is no prejudice(m) in it, but just factual content, that is, if anyone would consider themselves superior towards another race.


Now, lets look at the facts of our Current 'races' in the world, I will just refer to Caucasian ('White'), Negro ('Black') and Asiatic ('Darkish').

Now many of our hillbilly friends in the south consider themselves 'superior' to does we refer to as afro-american. This of course can be discarded immediately as our hillbilly inbreads usually cant find their own country on a map, and know nothing about evolution, have a belief in a god, and other obscure uneducated areas of their lives. But are Whites superior to Blacks?

Well, it depends on how you see it. Evolution does not make anything 'superior', nor is there a 'aim' upwards, but just change in the enviroment. Why are White people more Intelligent then Blacks? It seems that when we evolved from our African ancestors and came a colder climate, our intelligence also rose (slowly) as we got a chance to depend more on our environment, compared to Africa where it was warmer and easier to cope. More demand from us, seemed to have made the European ancestors superior (Ah, but wait, Not SUPERIOR, but rather, better adapted to THEIR environment, ah, see? Lets not fall in the trap here).


Continuing looking at the negros, we find that they could be taught what we know, which can be seen in the afro-american society. You may of course point out that there is more criminality, violence etc in these societies compared to the white ones, this should not be neglected, or simple denied: this is just how it is.

Now, if a dog can be taught to be like us, can it become SUPERIOR to us?

It seems so, as the Asian societies have, after gotten 'white' technology, used the one thing that was a negative in the great whole, that is, the amount of population, and surpassed the white (advanced) societies. And now, the Asian societies ARE superior, in just the right use of the word, compared to the 'white' ones (western).


And what about the negros? Africa is unstable, and the only societies there that are 'civilized' and 'works' in our intellectual way, is the past colonies, the rest, civil war, violence and crime, with few exceptions.

Does this mean whites are superior? No, it means that our societies DEMAND a higher intellect, which the negros do not have (as seen in Africa by factual basis), but they, on the other hand, have the benefit of being MORE ADAPTED to the African environment. But as this is 2008, with all the technology we created, completely useless in the big whole, as we evolved away from this physical need.


So am I a Racist (in the negative way)?
Or simple pointing out fact but it has become to 'sensitive''? (Everything is based on fact here). Well, I am certainly not PREJUDICED, but I do not ignore FACT. And this topic, is certainly one of the biggest Taboos around.


So what will happen now?
Most of us will wonder what you are talking about ......



I have seen some of your posts before and I am never sure if you are serious or not. Maybe it would help me to know if you are a foreigner - unfamiliar with the English language perhaps?

It's an interesting topic, no doubt. I'm just not sure how to go about responding to it. Can you help me?

Are you trying to point out facts about black people and say that they are just facts and that you yourself are not a racist because they are facts?

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So the question is not about race superiority but superior living conditions? :?

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It would help if you could find some way to determine whether the various attributes you discuss were due to race or some other factors. This is one of the differences between science and pseudo-science. You need to be more rigorous with your alleged facts and more carefully isolate the causal factors. Unless, of course, you are looking for a way to justify racism rather than simply seeking truth.
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Surely "Race" is an arbitrary designation? Certainly there are practical biological differences to be found among humans -- after all, drug companies target specific medicines towards specific "races". Responding to such differences should not therefore automatically make someone a "racist" in a pejorative sense, but the potential is always there for biology to be a lame excuse for abuse.

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Now many of our hillbilly friends in the south consider themselves 'superior' to does we refer to as afro-american. This of course can be discarded immediately as our hillbilly inbreads usually cant find their own country on a map, and know nothing about evolution, have a belief in a god, and other obscure uneducated areas of their lives. But are Whites superior to Blacks?
Ironic how you would open a discussion on racism, deplore the problem of PREJUDICE, and then go on to declare your own.


This section of this post is self edited. I done got in trouble once by speaking my mind to folks who are >edited, making this an edit within and edit<

I won't even bother reading the rest of your drivel.

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1. You forgot a large number of races to be considered: Native American, South Pacifican, Indian, Arabic/Middle Eastern, Aborigine, and the more recent Native American/Iberian mix often referred to as Hispanic.

2. A study was conducted that showed a direct relation between temperature above room average and crime in New York City. Up to a certain point, around 95 degrees F if I recall, crime increases with the heat. Political instability also seems to increase as one approaches the Equator, not to mention the instability caused by the imperialism and colonization by European forces of nearly all the regions currently deemed "third world" or "developing," colonization that has only really ended in most areas a mere 50 years ago (after the European powers left the Americas, the USA took their place in terms of meddling in other countries' affairs). I seem to recall one former colony that didn't coalesce into a federal entity until nearly 100 years after its inception.

3. African American communities, particularly those with high crime rates, are generally poor communities as well. Poor communities, regardless of race, generate higher crime rates than rich or middle class communities.

4. Many technologies, especially those that are thought to have indicated the end of the Medieval era, were originally invented in China or the Muslim Middle East and either imported or reinvented later in Europe. The Europeans seem to have had a better time of exploiting these technologies than their eastern originators; either that, or it was the regional advantage of living on what turned out to be massive, massive quantities of easily mined iron (the full body iron armor was only available in Europe because of availability, rather than because no other society wished to have that much protection).

Oh yes, and the next time you wish to insist that you are not prejudiced, don't compare "Asians" to dogs.
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