Will Christians be protected from Gay social goals?

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Will Christians be protected from Gay social goals?

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Once gay marriage is legalized in most states and forced on those that will not legalize it by the power of Democrat majority in Congress, how will Christians be protected from Gay Activists desiring to force Gay Culture and gay sex on every aspect of Christian life?

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East of Eden wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:There were marriages between a female and more the male, one male and a number of females, mother and son, brother and sister and all matters of personal relationships and unions. There is no reason why we should limit marriages to what you think has been the norm for the last 5000 years given it is a social institution.
In all of your examples, marriage was between a man and woman.
No, some were between men and women. But it is still irrelevant. It is a social institution. The gays are asking that the be allowed the right to have a civil union or marriage.
They use to marry daughters at 12 and 13 too.
If someone raped a girl he had to marry her.

I feel that there should be only civil unions recognized by the state and that marriages are a religious rite and no more recognized the baptism and communion.

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Cathar1950 wrote:I feel that there should be only civil unions recognized by the state and that marriages are a religious rite and no more recognized the baptism and communion.
I don't think you're anywhere close to getting 51% of America agreeing with you on that one, but you're welcome to try. Society has an interest in fostering normal heterosexual marriage for the procreation of society. Also, children need a mother and a father. No child would choose to grow up in a bizarre setting like a 'gay marriage'.

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East of Eden wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:I feel that there should be only civil unions recognized by the state and that marriages are a religious rite and no more recognized the baptism and communion.
I don't think you're anywhere close to getting 51% of America agreeing with you on that one, but you're welcome to try. Society has an interest in fostering normal heterosexual marriage for the procreation of society. Also, children need a mother and a father. No child would choose to grow up in a bizarre setting like a 'gay marriage'.
I know a young man who grew up with two mothers.. his biological mother and her partner. He just did fine.. no, he isn't gay. He is married and is a doctor. I would say he better adjusted than many people in more traditional families.
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goat wrote:
Amos wrote:
goat wrote:Show me the quote attributed to "Jesus" that shows that marriage is between a man and a woman exclusively.
Matthew 19:1-10
Please, quote the exact phrase that 'a marriage is between a man and woman exclusively'. It does talk about when a man and a woman marry, it shoudl be forever, and no divorce.

If you read it in context, he was replying ot the question

"The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"

Context!!!!

You would't know context if it slapped you in the face. Just because you refuse to see that homosexuality is an abomination, does not make it so. All of the man and wife talk should clue you in.

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East of Eden wrote:
Cathar 1950 wrote:I feel that there should be only civil unions recognized by the state and that marriages are a religious rite and no more recognized the baptism and communion.
I don't think you're anywhere close to getting 51% of America agreeing with you on that one, but you're welcome to try. Society has an interest in fostering normal heterosexual marriage for the procreation of society. Also, children need a mother and a father. No child would choose to grow up in a bizarre setting like a 'gay marriage'.
It doesn't matter if 75% don't believe in freedom of religion, the Supreme Court says otherwise. I believe they have the right to pursue happiness regardless of the 51% as long as it is two adults that want to share their lives and their sexual practices are no more you business then your sexual practices are any one's.
Many children don't have one or two parents. Given you believe God was actually the biological Father of Jesus I would think marriage(Mary and God were not married) between a god and a human is not as close as between two males or two females.
None of us choose to grow up with our parents.
As a Christian don't you consider yourself the Bride of Christ?

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tlong wrote:
goat wrote:
Amos wrote:
goat wrote:Show me the quote attributed to "Jesus" that shows that marriage is between a man and a woman exclusively.
Matthew 19:1-10
Please, quote the exact phrase that 'a marriage is between a man and woman exclusively'. It does talk about when a man and a woman marry, it shoudl be forever, and no divorce.

If you read it in context, he was replying ot the question

"The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"

Context!!!!

You would't know context if it slapped you in the face. Just because you refuse to see that homosexuality is an abomination, does not make it so. All of the man and wife talk should clue you in.
Do you have a point? I am seeing why you are on probation.
You ever hear of boy talk or how about girl talk?

Just because you see it as an abomination doesn't make it so either.

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goat wrote:
East of Eden wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:I feel that there should be only civil unions recognized by the state and that marriages are a religious rite and no more recognized the baptism and communion.
I don't think you're anywhere close to getting 51% of America agreeing with you on that one, but you're welcome to try. Society has an interest in fostering normal heterosexual marriage for the procreation of society. Also, children need a mother and a father. No child would choose to grow up in a bizarre setting like a 'gay marriage'.
I know a young man who grew up with two mothers.. his biological mother and her partner. He just did fine.. no, he isn't gay. He is married and is a doctor. I would say he better adjusted than many people in more traditional families.
And I'm sure many kids who grew up in orphanages turned out fine - that doesn't make it the optimal choice. I bet had he a choice, he would have grown up in a normal family setting.

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joeyknuccione wrote:
kayky wrote:Is Christianity and hatred compatible???
Compatible? They often seem one and the same.

>edit to add:
My evidence for my opinion is Fred Phelps and that bunch.
If Fred is representative of Christianity, is Stalin representative of atheism?

I would never have heard of Fred if I hadn't hung out on forums like these with haters of Chrisitanity.

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What is the "optimum" family situation for children? Isn't it being in a home where they are loved and supported without condition? Very few children in our society grow up in this way, unfortunately. But we do not outlaw heterosexual marriage because of it.

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East of Eden wrote:
joeyknuccione wrote:
kayky wrote:Is Christianity and hatred compatible???
Compatible? They often seem one and the same.

>edit to add:
My evidence for my opinion is Fred Phelps and that bunch.
If Fred is representative of Christianity, is Stalin representative of atheism?

I would never have heard of Fred if I hadn't hung out on forums like these with haters of Chrisitanity.
Not well informed?
It was all over the news, yet you think you know what is best for children.
Your analogy is faulty. There are many Christianities and many types of atheist.

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