Could Islam be reformed?

[van]

There are so many supposed "misunderstanders" of Islam- the muslim terrorists that have been guided by the hateful and violent verses in the Quran and hadith.

Yet the Quran is supposed to be so straight forward???

So many Imam preaching hate, yet Islam is supposed to be about tolerance? What gives?

[Fatihah]

There are so many supposed "misunderstanders" of Islam- the muslim terrorists that have been guided by the hateful and violent verses in the Quran and hadith.

Yet the Quran is supposed to be so straight forward???

So many Imam preaching hate, yet Islam is supposed to be about tolerance? What gives?

Response: It becomes quite clear when reading the qur'an and sunnah in it's entirety that islam is a religion of peace. Yet when a people is provoked and oppressed, they react in violence and develop hatred. They use whatever it takes to achieve their agenda in defeating the oppressor or the people they've developed hatred for, even by using what is pure and good. In this case, the good which is being used islam. As such, many terrorists and Imams preaching hatred and causing unjust acts of violence in the name of islam occurs, as a result of the hatred in which they've developed from oppression and other forms of mistreatment done to themselves or what they were taught were done to their parents and loved ones, past and present.

[TheWayIsOne]

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

[TheWayIsOne]

Your welcome, thanks for the dialogue.

You are referring to a different verse. The one I quoted is 5:29 and the translation is exactly as stated, in fact it can't be translated in any other way.

"And do not kill yourselves. Surely, God is Most Merciful to you." 5:29

There are many hadiths that have similar meaning to the one I mentioned. That particular narration can be found in the 'book of oaths and vows' in sahih al-Bukhari, the hadith is narrated by thabit bin ad-dahhak, there are similar narrations in the 'book of funerals' in Bukhari. There are other narrations in other books of hadith, clearly any form of suicide is not permissible in Islam, this is the view of all major scholars, including the most prominent scholars of our times such as Bin Baz, Uthaimeen, Albani, and many others.

If you look through any Islamic source of knowledge you would not find anything contrary to what I'm saying. Whoever understands anything other than that has gone way outside the bounds of Islam, and away from what the scholars have agreed upon. The unanimous agreement of the scholars is the 3rd source of legislation after the quran and the sunnah.

Off the subject, I would like to friendly welcome you to read this book http://www.islam-guide.com/ the entire book is on the site and its only about 50 or 60 pages. Quick read that sheds light on many issues with regards to Islam.

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

[TheWayIsOne]

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

Thanks for that. I’d not encountered that hadith before, but considering the voluminous nature of ahadith that doesn’t surprise me! Incidentally, the ‘correct’ reference would be Volume 8, Book 78, Number 647.

This isn’t the correct place to discuss my turning away from religion. I can pm you or email you if you prefer.

[good]

Islam is a religion of peace and not a religion of terrorism, to fight injustice and unjust, and not of injustice

[Woland]

Islam is a religion of peace and not a religion of terrorism, to fight injustice and unjust, and not of injustice

Hello good,

1. Does a religion of peace threaten the people who leave it with death?

2. Do you disagree that many mainstream Islamic denominations proclaim that apostates should be killed while saying that Islam is a religion of peace?

3. Does a religion of peace prevent others from worshipping as they choose and from having equal rights when compared to the adherents of the "religion of peace"?

4. Do you disagree that many mainstream Islamic denominations proclaim that non-Muslims living in an Islamic republic should have less rights than Muslims?

Thank you

Woland