Theist: I believe in a god.
Monotheist: I believe in one god.
Abrahamic Monotheist: I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Christian: My belief is rooted in a Christian understanding of God. I believe in Christ as my way to God; my mediator.
Trinity: I'm not sure about this, but neither were early Christians.
Basis for belief: In terms of my religion, tradition, upbringing -- faith. In terms of my theism in general -- reasoning and hope.
Proof? There can be no physical proof of a metaphysical God. If there was, the entity subjugated to human testing would not be divine in any sense.
Proof is irrelevant in determining the existence of God. Any physical "evidence" we have of "God's handiwork" is obviously subjective(because an Atheist can take the same evidence and claim that it is flawed and therefore God doesn't exist because if He did it would be flawless); so again "proof" is irrelevant. The multiverse exists as-is and does not render any proof for or against God's existence.
Therefore, I have determined that I fall under this classification:
Agnostic Theist: I believe, but have no way of proving or knowing 100%.
Do any of you guys believe the same way, or feel you might fall under "Agnostic Theism"?
Or am I just unorthodox?
Or is there a better terminology for my belief system?
Please don't say "hell-bound heretic."
My Theism
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Re: My Theism
Post #2From what you said I think I belong under the definition too but its probably debatable as is most other things.Darias wrote:Theist: I believe in a god.
Monotheist: I believe in one god.
Abrahamic Monotheist: I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Christian: My belief is rooted in a Christian understanding of God. I believe in Christ as my way to God; my mediator.
Trinity: I'm not sure about this, but neither were early Christians.
Basis for belief: In terms of my religion, tradition, upbringing -- faith. In terms of my theism in general -- reasoning and hope.
Proof? There can be no physical proof of a metaphysical God. If there was, the entity subjugated to human testing would not be divine in any sense.
Proof is irrelevant in determining the existence of God. Any physical "evidence" we have of "God's handiwork" is obviously subjective(because an Atheist can take the same evidence and claim that it is flawed and therefore God doesn't exist because if He did it would be flawless); so again "proof" is irrelevant. The multiverse exists as-is and does not render any proof for or against God's existence.
Therefore, I have determined that I fall under this classification:
Agnostic Theist: I believe, but have no way of proving or knowing 100%.
Do any of you guys believe the same way, or feel you might fall under "Agnostic Theism"?
Or am I just unorthodox?
Or is there a better terminology for my belief system?
Please don't say "hell-bound heretic."
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Re: My Theism
Post #3I actually am very close to what you believe. I would agree that one cannot prove 100% that God exists. However, I believe that I actually do know that God exists. It's not based on proof, but based on sufficient evidence. So, I would not classify myself as an agnostic.Darias wrote: Do any of you guys believe the same way, or feel you might fall under "Agnostic Theism"?
I believe also in one God, but also in the Godhead of God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Though I believe in the Trinity, I might be a bit unorthodox in that I do think it's imperative to be a Trinitarian to be a Christian.Or am I just unorthodox?
I can't think of any. It's hard to identify a single label to describe one's belief.Or is there a better terminology for my belief system?
Re: My Theism
Post #4Well, I know in my heart that God is real, but I can't know objectively - and I can't prove it either.otseng wrote:I actually am very close to what you believe. I would agree that one cannot prove 100% that God exists. However, I believe that I actually do know that God exists. It's not based on proof, but based on sufficient evidence. So, I would not classify myself as an agnostic.Darias wrote: Do any of you guys believe the same way, or feel you might fall under "Agnostic Theism"?
I believe also in one God, but also in the Godhead of God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Though I believe in the Trinity, I might be a bit unorthodox in that I do think it's imperative to be a Trinitarian to be a Christian.Or am I just unorthodox?
I can't think of any. It's hard to identify a single label to describe one's belief.Or is there a better terminology for my belief system?
That's why I wanted the term Agnostic Theist instead of just Agnostic.
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