If God existed would he care about humans?

[Question Everything]

Put yourself in this situation.

You are God. You have always existed. You create a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each one of which has 100 billion stars. You fine tune it to make it ideal for intelligent life. The universe works just the way you wanted it to, and roughly one star in a hundred thousand produces such life. You now have a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each one of which has a million intelligent civilizations, for a total of 100 million billion intelligent civilizations.

Why should you care about the one that has us?

[Woland]

Put yourself in this situation.

You are God. You have always existed. You create a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each one of which has 100 billion stars. You fine tune it to make it ideal for intelligent life. The universe works just the way you wanted it to, and roughly one star in a hundred thousand produces such life. You now have a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each one of which has a million intelligent civilizations, for a total of 100 million billion intelligent civilizations.

Why should you care about the one that has us?

If you're anything like the God that Christians believe in (which is to say, personal, loving, interventionist, and omnimax), you presumably would actively care because you have the requisite power and attributes to do so "effortlessly". For example, the "God" of the Bible, if he existed, could instantly end iniquity and give people equal chances of making it to "Heaven" (at the very least). There is no need for earthquakes, tsunamis, famine, painful childbirth, death while giving birth or at birth, unequal intelligence, mental illnesses, or even slavery if the sort of God that Christians believe in exists.

If, however, there is a "God" but it is not conscious, interventionist, loving, personal, just, or benevolent in the sense that humans generally use these words, then it makes perfect sense that even the planet we inhabit is not very hospitable (to say the least), that we are the result of the neverending and cruel process of evolution, that the universe is huge and nature merciless, and that people were liable to die at or shortly after birth for the longest of times, otherwise dying horribly from a variety of diseases in abject ignorance.

There's much more to be said here, but let's start with this.

Does anyone care to challenge my points?

-Woland

[Ragna]

Put yourself in this situation.

You are God. You have always existed. You create a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each one of which has 100 billion stars. You fine tune it to make it ideal for intelligent life. The universe works just the way you wanted it to, and roughly one star in a hundred thousand produces such life. You now have a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each one of which has a million intelligent civilizations, for a total of 100 million billion intelligent civilizations.

Why should you care about the one that has us?

Not in the human sense, since they're exposed to suffering, pain, extinction and death; and very short in existence. For somebody as powerful, creating all this and then saying he/she/it cares for us is like a multimillionaire building a whole city because he could put one tree in the corner of a street. Surely the seed would've been bought aside if it was the main point. The tree is not life in the analogy, but specifically human existence - and in fact, we're much less in comparison to the universe than a tree to a city that it happens to be in.

This is all supposing there's no afterlife as described.

[sarabellum]

When does caring become co-dependency?

What does "caring" look like to God...

Perhaps putting us on a planet with food, resources, and our mind is what caring looks like?

[Woland]

When does caring become co-dependency?

Co-dependency isn't what we're talking about.

Whenever someone tries to pass off their god concept as existing in reality as an "interventionist, omnipotent, superloving, merciful and just creator of all" entity who loves humans so very much and who may or may not eternally torture countless humans when they die, they should be reminded of the reality of things which is as follows.

None of the following need be true if there is such a deity as Christians worship.

No caring person would inflict the following on anyone if they had the power to effortlessly make them irrelevant. Isn't this what we're talking about when discussing omnipotence?

I invite any willing Christian to challenge, well...anything this post contains, really.

What does "caring" look like to God...

Not much, apparently.

Perhaps putting us

Those who make it past birth and who live a while - not that many when you consider the history of humans.

on a planet

Uninhabitable on most of its surface, unstable, dangerous and an indiscriminate killer of countless humans/animals in a variety of creative ways. Humans have to take constant shelter from the elements, etc.

with food,

For some people, some of the time. Some of our "food" can kill us, and humans are still mass killing for food non-stop (why?). Then you have poisons and diseases spread by food, you have famine, malnutrition and ignorance about food and health, etc.

resources,

Haven't been exploited much before a few billion humans died in abject ignorance, often at birth or while very young, from diseases afflicting them, from starvation, from the cold, from being poisoned, and from a variety of other sources of death and suffering. Unevenly distributed. Arbitrarily geographically distributed or available.

and our mind

Demonstrably fallible, extremely limited (especially if we're to believe that an omniscient "grand designer" made the universe with us in mind specifically), prone to developing all sorts of issues, many of which are irreversible, massively affected by chemistry (including nutrition) and heavily impacted (apparently irreversibly in many cases) by cultural and religious indoctrination.

is what caring looks like?

If that's what it looks like, I propose that theists use different words than "loving" and "caring" when they talk about their deity of "choice", if they want their speculation to be even mildly consistent with reality.

Just putting things into perspective.

-Woland

[Question Everything]

Tough question! I am a creator supposedly, which means i care all those that i have created even to the smallest species in the universe.

By "care about us" I mean more than the other intelligent civilizations, in other words seeing us as special or central in some way.

[Question Everything]

Let me put it this way. Christianity teaches that Jesus died on a cross for our sins. Did he do the equivalent of this for all the other intelligent civilizations?