Sex for disabled

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:13 am

For those adults without the mental skills for a marriage relationship, but who do have normal sexual desires, should sexual activity be prohibited? Would it be wrong to hire a competent sex worker to help satisfy those needs? Why or why not?

His Name Is John · Post by **His Name Is John** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:35 am

Who decides what the IQ level required is to be married?

Also, although slightly off topic, this is an interesting article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... g-sex.html

It does raise the question (in my mind at least) that if they don't really understand what they are doing (and are being manipulated, as indeed how could they not be?) then should it count as rape?

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:54 pm

His Name Is John wrote: Who decides what the IQ level required is to be married?

As far as I know there is no IQ test for marriage. If there was, well that's another topic.

How about leaving the decision to the subject. There are many who themselves understand that they do not have what it takes to carry on a marriage relationship. Should they be denied consensual sexual activity? Should they be allowed to pay someone to provide that service, if they are not able to recruit a volunteer?

His Name Is John · Post by **His Name Is John** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:07 pm

McCulloch wrote:How about leaving the decision to the subject. There are many who themselves understand that they do not have what it takes to carry on a marriage relationship. Should they be denied consensual sexual activity? Should they be allowed to pay someone to provide that service, if they are not able to recruit a volunteer?

I am sorry if my first reply seemed off topic, I just wanted clarification of several of the points taken for granted. I can presume they are correct though, and simply reply to the question at hand.

I believe if they do not have what it takes to be married they should not be allowed consensual sexual activity. Sexual activity should be reserved until marriage (I can explain why if you so want). Thus you shouldn't take on sexual relationships without it.

Ps- Is the link I provided not relevant?

bluethread · Post by **bluethread** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:39 pm

I think the general principle is that one should not be permitted to do something, if one is not capable of being responsible for the consequences. Many mentally challenged individuals are capable of handling sharp objects. However, if they can not be trusted, they are not permitted to use them. I'm not sure how caregivers handle masturbation, but I gather that is not uncommon.

Haven · Post by **Haven** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:15 pm

If they lack the capacity for informed consent, then they shouldn't be allowed to have sex.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:10 am

His Name Is John wrote:
McCulloch wrote:How about leaving the decision to the subject. There are many who themselves understand that they do not have what it takes to carry on a marriage relationship. Should they be denied consensual sexual activity? Should they be allowed to pay someone to provide that service, if they are not able to recruit a volunteer?
I am sorry if my first reply seemed off topic, I just wanted clarification of several of the points taken for granted. I can presume they are correct though, and simply reply to the question at hand.

I believe if they do not have what it takes to be married they should not be allowed consensual sexual activity. Sexual activity should be reserved until marriage (I can explain why if you so want). Thus you shouldn't take on sexual relationships without it.

Ps- Is the link I provided not relevant?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:38 pm

McCulloch wrote:For those adults without the mental skills for a marriage relationship, but who do have normal sexual desires, should sexual activity be prohibited? Would it be wrong to hire a competent sex worker to help satisfy those needs? Why or why not?

Well, if prosittiion is legal in your country (which in Canada, I believe it is legal), then why not? Main concern I would have is making sure there is proper protection against pregnancy and std's.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:43 am

Haven wrote:If they lack the capacity for informed consent, then they shouldn't be allowed to have sex.

Agreed. But what I am asking about is the territory between having informed consent and being capable of maintaining a marriage relationship.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:06 am

Goat wrote:
McCulloch wrote:For those adults without the mental skills for a marriage relationship, but who do have normal sexual desires, should sexual activity be prohibited? Would it be wrong to hire a competent sex worker to help satisfy those needs? Why or why not?
Well, if prosittiion is legal in your country (which in Canada, I believe it is legal), then why not? Main concern I would have is making sure there is proper protection against pregnancy and std's.

Prostitution is technically legal in Canada. However, for all practical purposes it is illegal. It is illegal to solicit for the purposes of prostitution, making it against the law to negotiate a price or to advertise. It is illegal to operating a premise where such activities take place.

A Chief Justice of the Supreme Court wrote: We find ourselves in an anomalous, some would say bizarre, situation where almost everything related to prostitution has been regulated by the criminal law except the transaction itself. The appellants' argument then, more precisely stated, is that in criminalizing so many activities surrounding the act itself, Parliament has made prostitution de facto illegal if not de jure illegal.

If the sex business was legal then regulating protection for sex workers and their clients could be facilitated.

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