Deep thinking

[Waterfall]

Hello everybody

I have some questions for atheist and theist.

Why do atheist put children into the world?

Nobody wants to be born without legs. Nobody wants a terrible disease. Nobody wants to be murdered.

But all these things happens in this world.

If atheist say that there isn't anything after death, then they are undermining there own ability to put children into the world, because there is nobody (intelligent) who wants to be born into that kind of world.

Have atheist thought about that?

I don´t think Christopher Hitchens (R.I.P.) or Richard Dawkins have thought about that...

Now (some) theist also have a problem, because why do they put children into the world, if God is sending them to a eternal hell?

I think the christian worldview is very strange, because if I put 10 children into the world, then God will send 9 of them to a eternal hell.

Very strange and not a good reason for me to put 10 children into the world.

Maybe I only should put one child into the world...but then I won't be doing Gods will...because God needs 10 children...because 9 have to go to a eternal hell...because that is what the good book say...well...what shall I do?

If I only put 1 child into the world then I destroy this book...because this book is based on me putting many children into the world.

Isn't it?

In fact we could blow the world apart today and the book would have failed completely...but why should we blow the world apart...just to prove a point.

That would be insane...but then again...we are going to die anyway...so why not go out whit a big bang...and stop the madness on earth.

Why do we keep on putting children into the world? Don´t we know the price for that action? How many children will suffer? Are we willing to pay the price for a day more on earth? Who are selling life? Who are buying life?

Do you wanner be born into a world where there is no heaven...where there is no place to put your dead parents? Your dead wife/hosbond...Your dead children...Your dead friends...Yourself.

Don´t we have a good reason to talk about a soul?

Maybe people like Putin don´t have a good reason to talk about a soul...maybe a soul is a scaring thought for them...because they have a lot to answar for.

So there are also a good reason not to talk about a soul...

But here we all should remember that God have a great plan for us all.

Maybe Putin haven´t heard about the great plan...justice...compassion...understanding...forgivenes...love...development...reincarnation.

Lets talk about reincarnation...because I don´t think we have got this right...are the soul created? How many souls are there? How many bodies are there? Are there more souls than bodies?

Now we are back to some kind of strange thinking...because every time there is created a body...then a soul have to fall down from heaven...and so we are in control of that fall...because we can stop putting bodies into the world.

Do the soul fall down from heaven or do it chose to come down from heaven or do it start from earth and then is on a road to heaven? Or? Where did Jesus come from? Heaven? Where did Hitler come from? Hell?

A thought on all this helltalk...because if God (the almighty) have empty the hellworld for resident, then why are we still talking about a hell? Maybe there was a hellworld at one point in time? Maybe it is gone now? Maybe Satan have turn around? Maybe Satan is asking for forgivenes? How great is God?

Who created the human body? Why don´t animals have a soul? When did God connect a soul to the human body? And why? What is the good news? That we have got it all roung? What is the real story about life on earth? Where do we come from? Where are we going? What should we tell our children? See you in heaven? Who is writting the story on earth?

Together we can change the world...but how? What are we going to teach our children? Be a good son/daughter? Well...maybe we should be a good father/mother first?

What kind of world are we putting children into?

Lets say I put 3 women and 6 men on the planet...then I have created a problem for them, because what are they going to do? 1 women and 2 men...is that aloud? What shall they do?

Just thinking out loud...

Here at the end of all this thinking I have to say that my english aint to good, so I hope you will bear with me on this.

And merry christmas to you all

[Waterfall]

And now for something truly HILARIOUS!

I'm hope your still drunk!

This is me singing a song I wrote called Rainbow of Love.

It's a horrible recording, I'm singing, playing guitar, and drums. And when I mixed the tracks together to make the video they weren't quite in sync.

Anyway, here it is in all it's unsynchronized glory.

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I think you just have demonstrated what love is all about.

Very, very good music.

I would like to have the text.

Its hard to follow up with sosh great music that you have made, so...

But lets see if I can find some more music for us.
By the way...I´m still dronk...but now I will go happy to sleep

Take care...

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[Divine Insight]

I would like to have the text.

Rainbow of Love
by Divine Insight

Please won't you water me
with the raindrops of your love
Send me a potpourri
of the tenderness thereof

My spirit's dry
I don't wanna die
Please send me something
Even if it's just the moisture of your sigh

My spirit's dying from a desiccated heart
My soul is crumbling and falling all apart
I need a sip of love if it's only al la carte
Please won't you send me a rainbow of love

Oh, let your love flow
like a river flowing to the sea
Oh, let your light glow
like sunlight dancing on a tree

Oh, I've been thirsty for the sweetness of your kiss
My lips are withthered from the kissing that I miss
I long to love you with emancipated bliss
Please won't you send me a rainbow of love

Oh, let your love flow
like the golden honey of the bees
Oh, sing a love song
with a melody that's aimed to please

My breath is parched and dry like a cloudless desert sky
My eyes are empty, I've no tears and cannot cry
My heart belongs to you, that I can't deny
Please won't you send me a rainbow of love

Oh, let you love flow
like an eagle gliding on a breeze
Oh, set your spirit free
and let your love flow, eternally

My life's been empty for a long and lonely time
I've lived through barrenness where I almost resigned
My constant love for you has been my only crime
Please won't you send me a rainbow of love

Oh, send your love to me
I'll return it multiplied by infinity
Oh, won't you be with me
together we can make a life of
happiness and loving harmony

[Divine Insight]

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[Waterfall]

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Its amazing...

There are so mosh to learn.

Someday I would like to play the guitar to (it will not be in this lifetime, but next time maybe...).

Here is one more that I really like.

And when I´m fresh again (are a lilltle tired a the moment) I will look at post 26.

Take care...

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[Divine Insight]

Here I wrote you a song based on your concerns.
Well, I guess it's just a poem at this point.
But any poem can be made into a song.


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Waterfall of Poignant Thought
by Divine Insight
(inspired by Waterfall)

To be or not to be?
this appears to be the question
But the answer still eludes us
as an infinite regression

There is no way to know the reason
for why the world exists
Is there higher purpose
or just us humanists?

Agnosticism drives us nuts
but it's all we truly know
as the atheists and theists
debate in vertigo

A waterfall of poignant thought
churning through our brain
what are we supposed to do
in a world that's cursed with pain?

Should we have new children
in this wild and hostile place?
or should we cease to procreate
and end the human race?

Is there any reason
or are we just a stroke of luck?
And when we find a loving mate
should we procreate amuck?

These are thoughts that drive me wild
and bring me nightmares though the night
And when the morning sunlight shines
will my children be alright?

A waterfall of poignant thought
falling from a cliff
resisting all deciphering
like a fluid hieroglyph

Knowing wasn't meant to be
of this we can be certain
Will death be death to end it all
or just a fleeting curtain?

Have another sip of wine
and listen to the wind
with any luck we'll here a voice
that whispers deep within
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[Waterfall]

Here I wrote you a song based on your concerns.
Well, I guess it's just a poem at this point.
But any poem can be made into a song.


[center]
Waterfall of Poignant Thought
by Divine Insight
(inspired by Waterfall)

To be or not to be?
this appears to be the question
But the answer still eludes us
as an infinite regression

There is no way to know the reason
for why the world exists
Is there higher purpose
or just us humanists?

Agnosticism drives us nuts
but it's all we truly know
as the atheists and theists
debate in vertigo

A waterfall of poignant thought
churning through our brain
what are we supposed to do
in a world that's cursed with pain?

Should we have new children
in this wild and hostile place?
or should we cease to procreate
and end the human race?

Is there any reason
or are we just a stroke of luck?
And when we find a loving mate
should we procreate amuck?

These are thoughts that drive me wild
and bring me nightmares though the night
And when the morning sunlight shines
will my children be alright?

A waterfall of poignant thought
falling from a cliff
resisting all deciphering
like a fluid hieroglyph

Knowing wasn't meant to be
of this we can be certain
Will death be death to end it all
or just a fleeting curtain?

Have another sip of wine
and listen to the wind
with any luck we'll here a voice
that whispers deep within
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Thank you very mush

Maybe this also will inspire you...

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[Waterfall]

[Replying to post 36 by Waterfall]

I have made a (little) playlist more that I hope you will enjoy.

The number 7 have a special meaning to me, so...

How can music change the world?

Maybe I should post this in the music department (Topic...music for the people).

What do you think?

Is it alright to use music this way?


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[Divine Insight]

Maybe I should post this in the music department (Topic...music for the people).

What do you think?

Is it alright to use music this way?

Yes I would suggest posting music in the music forum. This thread has become totally inappropriate for the Philosophy forum and there's a very good chance it will be moved to random ramblings at this point.

How can music change the world?

This might make an interesting question in General chat. But even there I wouldn't just post long lists of videos with no comments. Posting one at a time along with some comments about how you feel that particular song might have influenced the world would be interesting. But just posting a long string of music videos with no comments or discussion about them isn't likely to draw people into any discussions.

[Waterfall]

Maybe I should post this in the music department (Topic...music for the people).

What do you think?

Is it alright to use music this way?

Yes I would suggest posting music in the music forum. This thread has become totally inappropriate for the Philosophy forum and there's a very good chance it will be moved to random ramblings at this point.

How can music change the world?

This might make an interesting question in General chat. But even there I wouldn't just post long lists of videos with no comments. Posting one at a time along with some comments about how you feel that particular song might have influenced the world would be interesting. But just posting a long string of music videos with no comments or discussion about them isn't likely to draw people into any discussions.

I will follow you on this...because this is not a music-room...but sometimes music can make one think about things a different way...music is a powerfull tool...

But now I will return to post 26.

And it is good that you are here to keep me on the right track

Take care...

[Divine Insight]

And it is good that you are here to keep me on the right track

Just as a head's up. For some people (like myself) Internet speed is not as fast as it could be. When a thread is loaded down with tons of YouTube videos it becomes extremely cumbersome and slow to load, and or refresh. It just takes a long time for the thread to load all of those YouTube links and pictures, etc.

And this makes the thread undesirable to post to or read. If you have a super-fast Internet connection you may not realize that this is a problem for other people.