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myth-one.com wrote: The lake of fire is the method of execution.

The fire is everlasting, because the devil is everlasting -- being a spiritual bodied being. Since the devil is everlasting, his prison must also be everlasting.

I'm a little confused by some of what you said. You say that the lake of fire is the method of execution, so if the Devil is cast into it, wouldn't that mean that the Devil is executed. Does he survive his own execution?


myth-one.com wrote: Death and the grave are thus cast into the lake of fire and destroyed as prophesied
Are there two lakes of fire? If so, which one is Death cast into?
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[Replying to post 2 by 2timothy316]
The Greek word for soul or psuche means (a) the vital breath, breath of life, (b) the human soul, (c) the soul as the seat of affections and will, (d) the self, (e) a human person, an individual.
http://biblehub.com/greek/5590.htm

The 2nd death is the death of the person, soul or plainly the individual. All that they are and were. Completely gone. That is what fire does to an object and why the Lake of Fire is on fire. When we toss something into a furnace, it's gone.
The breath of GOD cannot die. It is from an eternal source.
"And death and the Grave were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire."
As symbolism, the death of death is simply the end of having beginnings which end in death.

One can say then, that we all have an experience of having beginning but there is no end to our experience as life - as the breath of GOD.

Fire would consume death but not life.

GOD = Life. The breath of GOD = Life.

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William wrote:
- What is the scriptural basis for those that suggest that those subject to this "second death" return to continue/resume life in God's favor after the experience?[/i]
There are many biblical referrences which can be interpreted to signify that everyone will be saved and no one will be lost.

Could you provide some of these biblical references?

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William wrote:GOD = Life. The breath of GOD = Life.
Are the animals then breathed to life like Adam was?
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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