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. Trump aides assure us Mexico will pay for it. Yet that will just be another broken promise. Just billions of more debt to add to the budget with no revenue to pay for it. I'm confused why someone being disrespectful or insensitive make people so upset. It's the core of the regressive left these days, especially on college campuses. No one can get their feelings hurt, or they can't feel disrespected.2Dbunk wrote: [Replying to post 7 by Kenisaw]
No! Trump has gone beyond . . . way, way beyond the pale with his gross disrespect for the sensitivities of MOST Americans -- and the world community. We can only hope his parallels with Hitler moderate. But then, Hitler didn't lie quite so much as you'd think -- he lived up to most of his promises that he wrote about in "Mein Kampf.". . . The point I was making is that I find it quite silly when people pretend that one politician is so much more horrible and lying and cheating than another. They are all like that.
And later:. . . 'political correctness' essentially is nothing more than being considerate of others; considering the other person's point of view. It is obvious that Trump does not care about others, particularly those who are ethnically diverse. What DOES surprise me is that anyone who claims to be a Christian would tout being thoughtless of or inconsiderate to others as some sort of accolade. The essence of Christianity is [or should be] loving others and being considerate of their feelings. When did not caring for others become a virtue?
If words don't mean anything anymore, we're f-----d!Being 'politically correct' is frequently just a matter of being polite or sensitive to others. Trump lies repeatedly, has been outrageously abusive to women in word and attitude. He's said Mexicans are rapists, he's made fun of people with disabilities, actively ridiculing them and has bragged about sexually assaulting women.
To simply call this 'politically incorrect' is like calling murder 'the injudicious firing of a shotgun in the presence of others.'
Hate speech is still freedom of speech. Bullying speech is still freedom of speech. That you and I don't like them doesn't mean that someone can't say those words. And we have every right to comment back, and say things they won't like. A free exchange of ideas is all that matters. I AGREE that we should complain about ideas that we don't like, and statements that we disagree with. But there is a concerted effort in this country, especially in the humanities departments in America, to keep people from saying these things. That is patently wrong. As the old saying does, I don't like what that person is saying, but I'll always defend their right to say it.2Dbunk wrote: [Replying to Kenisaw]
I think you'll agree that words are the beginnings of human events, especially political events. from what you've indicated, you're not a fan of 'political correctness' in that you don't care what people say. Unless they are patronizing or condescending, words are important . . . and you've used them quite effectively in these forums. But hate speech, bullying speech, threatening speech and fake news is something to complain about (you call it whining -- well, if it's whining I still have a long way to go to where the Whiner-in-Chief has bottomed-out, doing everything in His power to get His way.
Our Whiner-in-Chief has lowered the bar of expectations we can predict for our future mentors and leaders. Impetuous behavior is our new norm. Lying is no longer an option -- it has become essential for succeeding in politics!
As for political correctness, I think Danmark summed it up well a few months ago when he posted the following:
And later:. . . 'political correctness' essentially is nothing more than being considerate of others; considering the other person's point of view. It is obvious that Trump does not care about others, particularly those who are ethnically diverse. What DOES surprise me is that anyone who claims to be a Christian would tout being thoughtless of or inconsiderate to others as some sort of accolade. The essence of Christianity is [or should be] loving others and being considerate of their feelings. When did not caring for others become a virtue?
If words don't mean anything anymore, we're f-----d!Being 'politically correct' is frequently just a matter of being polite or sensitive to others. Trump lies repeatedly, has been outrageously abusive to women in word and attitude. He's said Mexicans are rapists, he's made fun of people with disabilities, actively ridiculing them and has bragged about sexually assaulting women.
To simply call this 'politically incorrect' is like calling murder 'the injudicious firing of a shotgun in the presence of others.'
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I feel like your leaving out details relevant to the case. Answering one way or the other might be irrelevant without the pertinent details. That being said if you don't like the dress code or code of conduct in your student union perhaps one should apply for a leadership role to change said policies?Kenisaw wrote: [Replying to post 12 by 2Dbunk]
Let me ask you a question, about a real case that happened recently. Some kid at a public university wore a cowboy costume to a party hosted by the Student Union association at the school, and was denied entry to that party because the outfit was "disrespectful" to Native Americans.
Is that OK?
Another person jumped over the fence and reached the White House doors last night!DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... ually.html
So it looks like the Great Wall of Trump might get built except Mexico is likely not going to pay for it. That's right we are
Instead of going after the demand for illegal workers we are going to spend billions on a silly wall.
No, Trump has gone farther than any US presidential candidate (I didn't say "president") ever in dissembling. The bar has been lowered and Blastcat may be right -- anarchy may be the better way. "Kill 'en all?" Harsh and illegal -- I say pen them up with pigs first.Agreed, but that is not the point I was making. The point I was making is that I find it quite silly when people pretend that one politician is so much more horrible and lying and cheating than another. They are all like that.
deplorable is now an [im]proper noun!The thing about Trump's many many lies, is that they don't seem to matter to his fans.
But.. that doesn't mean that the Trump administration wont try to bully Mexico to pay for the wall one way or the other.
Contracts are out for bid this month or April for stretches in Calif. and Arizona, as I understand.They aren't going to build a wall. That isn't going to happen.
My wife is a cat lover and I'm not allowed to use THAT expression in her or the cat's presence. How come you are so demeaning to your breed?After all, there are more ways to skin a CAT.
I know that, being a cat.
Like Bush/Cheney failed to do in Iraq, We failed to annex ALL of Mexico in 1846 taking only the northern portion of that country. Can you imagine what Mexico would be today if we had done so! And they call us an imperialist country.In any case, US has more clout that Mexico. I think if there is enough will, the US can crush just about any other country.
I would add ". . . the mouth and sword is mightier than the pen." (';)') (':(')When it comes to bully politics, the sword is mightier that the pen.
The bible encouraged Israelites to treat immigrants with kindness.DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... ually.html
So it looks like the Great Wall of Trump might get built except Mexico is likely not going to pay for it. That's right we are
Instead of going after the demand for illegal workers we are going to spend billions on a silly wall.
Except when God encouraged the Israelites to make them permanent slaves.
Perhaps when humans go extinct. Of course by then, it will be too late for humans to learn to treat others humanely.
One day the world will be without borders.
Immigrants and illegal border violators are not the same.JehovahsWitness wrote:
The bible encouraged Israelites to treat immigrants with kindness.
One day the world will be without borders.
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