Genesis 1:1

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Genesis 1:1

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In the beginning Elohim/Theos/God created the heavens and the earth.

If we can't get past this very first verse, we can't claim legitimacy for another mote of biblical writing.

Do the Elohim exist ...?

Did they do the creating ...?

When was the beginning ...?

What are the heavens and the earth ...?

Who wrote that verse ...?

Can we back ANY of Gen 1:1 with anything other than faith and quotations from the same writings ...?

Because if we can't, we have to be honest and admit it.

And nit-picking over the finer details of what the questions may mean, or critiquing science, are just diversionary tactics.
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.

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brunumb wrote:
The universe we live in makes no sense with Yahweh. There is absolutely no evidence for Yahweh to boot.
Are you making the nihilistic argument that the universe makes no sense period, or are you saying that the universe makes no sense, if one believes in a creator?

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bluethread wrote:
brunumb wrote:
The universe we live in makes no sense with Yahweh. There is absolutely no evidence for Yahweh to boot.
Are you making the nihilistic argument that the universe makes no sense period, or are you saying that the universe makes no sense, if one believes in a creator?

It appears to me that the expression used signifies that brunumb is stating the universe makes no sense if one believes Yahweh is the creator of the universe.
Perhaps this is on account of the contradictory nature of that particular idea of GOD when aligned with what we know about the universe.

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