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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:13 pm  Trump: "Did nothing wrong, there are no charges against Reply with quote

Yet, today Trump is, effectively, an un-indicted co-conspirator.
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Has he convinced you the free press is the "enemy of the people?


They are. The extremely liberal-biased media...

Utter nonsense. All of the major media outlets are self correcting. The exception is Fox 'News' and fringe sites like infowars.

The Economist, Business Insider, The Wall Street Journal, and other organizations that are slightly right of center essentially agree with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYTIMES, and THE WASHINGTON POST.

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Danmark wrote:

Walterbl wrote:

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Has he convinced you the free press is the "enemy of the people?


They are. The extremely liberal-biased media...

Utter nonsense. All of the major media outlets are self correcting. The exception is Fox 'News' and fringe sites like infowars.

The Economist, Business Insider, The Wall Street Journal, and other organizations that are slightly right of center essentially agree with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYTIMES, and THE WASHINGTON POST.

You don't thinks the media is biased?

I don't think its necessarily a bad thing to have a bias but I think its fairly extraordinary to think that any media could be completely without bias.

And why do you single out Fox media from all the mainstream media?

My position is they are all biased and the best evidence of this is how they all support the war in Syrian... or any war for that matter. They're corporate owners love war they actually and literally wax poetic watching missiles being launched into the middle east.

We can't have free university or clean water in Michigan but we can rain bombs down on most of the middle east and our mainstream media will support it every time.

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Everyone is biased. But it is the fallacy of false equivalence that suggests that becaue of this all biases are equal. They are not. Because the Economist, NPR, and CNN have a slight bias does not mean that Fox News and InfoWars do not have HUGE biases. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-biased-is-your-news-source-you-probably-wo...

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[quote="[url=http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=931291#931291]An "un-indicted co-conspirator" is someone for whom there is evidence of a crime, just as if he were indicted, but for some reason, has not (or cannot) be indicted. [/quote]

There is another reason for using the term "person 1" or "un-indicted co-conspirator". You don't want to inform this person that this person is under investigation. If you did in advance you give this person time to leave town or bribe witnesses in advance.

[quote="[url=http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=931291#931291]In the case of a president, "due process" is the responsibility of Congress - impeachment by the House takes the place of indictment, and the Senate tries the case.[/quote]

Mark this on your calander, this is an historical even we will get to see live on TV

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And why do you single out Fox media from all the mainstream media?


This question is simple enough to answer. FOX promotes their TV show as a “news” outlet while instead FOX is not “news”, it is a “tabloid” full of lies designed to fool the people who watch it for the benefit of FOX donors, regardless of its validity.

It's called, lying for profit


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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 26: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:50 pm
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The Trump I see today is NOT the man he “said” he was during the election
Trump admires the “ruler” of Russia and North Korea because they will remain in power for life. He sees himself as a “ruler” & during his second term in office he will abolish the two-term limit and appoint himself as the prime master leader; for life, a power he believes he can pass on to his children,
Setting that aside for a moment I have this to refresh your memory about Trump-----------

----Donald Trump's greatest achievements---- (to date)

Trump revokes background checks to buy guns
NEWS FEB 28 2017, 8:39 PM ET
Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

https://tinyurl.com/ycz7qp4j

Tell me, do you agree with Trump's action? Please explain why?

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration on Monday rejected an Obama-era plan to make automobiles more fuel efficient, opening up a long process to weaken current standards and putting California and the federal government on a collision course over vehicle emissions.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/04/02/world/asia/02reuters-usa-epa-autos.ht...

Tell me, do you agree with Trump's action? Please explain why?

Trump sons' hunting in focus as US lifts import ban on African elephant trophies
The Trump administration’s decision to loosen restrictions around the import of elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Zambia has turned attention back to the president’s family’s own connection to the controversial sport.
Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump are prolific big-game hunters and during the 2016 campaign, images re-emerged of the pair on a 2011 hunting trip posing with animals they had killed on safari, including an elephant, a buffalo and a leopard.
https://twitter.com/J_Rob66/status/759613555825975296/photo/1

Tell me, do you agree with Trump's action? Please explain why?

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump again called for an end to the filibuster and said there will be no deal with Democrats on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, also known as DACA.

NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL," Trump tweeted Sunday morning.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/01/politics/trump-no-more-daca-deal/index.html

Tell me, do you agree with Trump's action? Please explain why?

The proposal by the U.S. Department of Energy would lower the status of some high-level radioactive waste in several places around the nation, including the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Washington state — the most contaminated nuclear site in the country.

Reclassifying the material to low-level could save the agency billions of dollars and decades of work by essentially leaving the material in the ground, critics say.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/trump-plans-to-reclassify-nuclear-waste-...

Tell me, do you agree with Trump's action? Please explain why?


I'm just asking why anyone would agree or disagree with the above actions by trump, just asking

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Danmark wrote:

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Everyone is biased. But it is the fallacy of false equivalence that suggests that becaue of this all biases are equal. They are not.

Fair enough.
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Because the Economist, NPR, and CNN have a slight bias...

"CNN has a slight bias"? I agree Fox news has a strong bias but I think CNN has an equal bias.

Isn't CNN as biased against Trump as Fox is biased for him? If not then why is Chris Cuomo recorded on camera saying during the election "We (CNN) couldn't help her (Hillary Clinton) more"!

Let that quote sink in for a moment...

Anyone who doesn't think they have a strong bias actually disagrees with a CNN news person.

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... does not mean that Fox News and InfoWars do not have HUGE biases. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-biased-is-your-news-source-you-probably-wo...

Do you actually put Fox and InfoWars in the same category? InfoWars is a joke I may not be right but I think you're putting them together to create a sense that they are the same and since most reasonable people would disregard InfoWars as a joke then they don't need to consider Fox news a serious news media source and they continue to unquestioningly watch CNN believing its only "slightly biased".

Here's some interesting poll results https://www.businessinsider.com/most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nyti...

Info wars didn't even make this list ostensibly because they aren't considered a serious news outlet worth even asking about.

Fox is considered the most biased

CNN also has a strong bias

According to this list the organizations with a slight bias are; The Washington Post, NBC news, The New York Times and Vox.

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I don't put anything in the same category as InfoWars. They are the worst. But according to https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-biased-is-your-news-source-you-probably-wo... CNN is about as biased to the Left as The Economist is to the Right; in other words, moderately biased/centrist. FoxNews/DailyWire OTOH, is almost as biased, dishonest, and misleading as InfoWars.

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Danmark wrote:

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I don't put anything in the same category as InfoWars. They are the worst.

Agreed
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But according to https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-biased-is-your-news-source-you-probably-wo... CNN is about as biased to the Left as The Economist is to the Right; in other words, moderately biased/centrist. FoxNews/DailyWire OTOH, is almost as biased, dishonest, and misleading as InfoWars.

This chart puts Fox news and InfoWars in the same "Nonsense/damaging to public discourse" box. I'd need to see some evidence for that.

If you look carefully at where they place CNN its the line between the yellow and orange boxes which means they consider CNN to be on the line between "Fair interpretations of the news" and "Unfair interpretations of the news".

The real question is where does MarketWatch see themselves?

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AdHoc wrote:

Danmark wrote:

[Replying to post 27 by AdHoc]

I don't put anything in the same category as InfoWars. They are the worst.

Agreed
Danmark wrote:

But according to https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-biased-is-your-news-source-you-probably-wo... CNN is about as biased to the Left as The Economist is to the Right; in other words, moderately biased/centrist. FoxNews/DailyWire OTOH, is almost as biased, dishonest, and misleading as InfoWars.

This chart puts Fox news and InfoWars in the same "Nonsense/damaging to public discourse" box. I'd need to see some evidence for that.

If you look carefully at where they place CNN its the line between the yellow and orange boxes which means they consider CNN to be on the line between "Fair interpretations of the news" and "Unfair interpretations of the news".

The real question is where does MarketWatch see themselves?

MW is a subsidiary of Dow Jones & Company, a property of News Corp, which also owns The Wall Street Journal. It is not how MW sees itself that counts, but how independent analysis evaluates. MarketWatch is considered "least biased." This makes sense since they are in the business of helping investors by giving accurate information. Investors have a 'truth' bias. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/marketwatch/

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