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Jesus' physical appearance plays a major role in christianit

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The image people have if Jesus plays a big part in their beliefs in him.

They believe he is handsome. That he wears a white robe and sandals. Has long slightly wavy hair. His hair is becoming more blonde these days. And blue eyes are popular now. His eyes used to be brown in paintings and hair was darker. No matter. What matters is that he is nice to look at.

There are thousands of statues of Jesus. Paintings- too many to number. But he is always pleasant to the eyes All depicting a handsome man.

How many statues would there be if he was hideous and disgusting looking? If he was repulsive to the eyes. How many Christians would have a picture of him hanging in their house? And how many would point to that picture and say he is my Lord and savior!!
How many racist white Christians would reject an image of Jesus if he looked like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden? In truth Jesus would have looked more like them than the one DaVinci painted of him in the famous 'Last Supper'

Before everyone starts replying with how real Christians aren't racists -stop. If they identify as Christians they are Christian.

Christianity is a religion whose relationship with God requires that he be someone they can relate to. Someone who thinks like them. Someone THEY approve of. They want a religion that lets them decide what is right or wrong. That lets them eat what they want. A religion that won't make them feel guilty. A religion that provides an excuse for their failings. They sin because they are born sinners doncha' know. No. We are sinners when we sin!

Christians want God to think and act like them. They want God to be the image of them. They want to look at him. They have created him in their image. 2000 years ago a group of people have the people what they wanted. They dragged God down to earth and gave him a name and made him just like us. Jesus is just the kind of god we would make if we could make one. We get everything we want, live forever and he suffers for our sins.

Want to see people get outraged? Enact a law that forbids images of Jesus. Statues or anything that is to represent him. They are idol worshippers. Take their images and statues and see. Unfortunately that won't happen. Buuuut....next time you see a Christian looking at an image of Jesus mention what a nice picture of Moses they are looking at.
It's Jesus!
No, it's Moses.

Christianity is not based on faith. Faith is believing in things you can't see. Like God
Faith is not needing to put a face on God.

Christians worship the God that exists in their minds. He has light brown hair and blue eyes. Wears a white robe and leather sandals. And holds his arms outstretched. That's god to them. When he returns (rolling my eyes) he better look exactly like that or they won't see him. In the meantime they have their images and statues to look at. So comforting. Oh and the Virgin Mary. They created her plasant to the eyes too. Oh and the manger scene...look there is God....creater of the world...laying in a pile of hay. Born even lower than us. In a barn! A perfect God. One who doesn't think he's better than us[/i][/quote]

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Well, both Jesus and his mother are believed by some Christians to be perpetually virgin. It may have something to do with their appearance.

Anyway, most educated Christians will probably tell you that we do not know what Christ looked like. In fact, we don't know what any Biblical figures looked like although we have many artists who have depicted them nevertheless.

You are correct though that Christians, like most people, want their heroes and idols to look good, and their enemies tend to be unattractive in appearance. I remember, for instance, when I used to go into Christian chat rooms on AOL. A Christian there got very upset with me and sent me an instant message. He told me that I must be very ugly. I'm not sure how he arrived at that conclusion, but he seemed to be equating ugliness with irreverence for his beliefs.

Finally, before this discussion gets too ugly, here's a depiction of a not-so-handsome Jesus.

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If the bible is to be believed Jesus was a perfect man, whose body was prepared directly by an Almighty God that does everything perfectly... why would a perfect human specimen of a man be physically repulsive or even aesthetically substandard ?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Avoice]

If the bible is to be believed Jesus was a perfect man, whose body was prepared directly by an Almighty God that does everything perfectly... why would a perfect human specimen of a man be physically repulsive or even aesthetically substandard ?
That's a big if is it not?

You've failed to provide evidence that Almighty God does anything, much less that what he does is perfect.


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JehovahsWitness wrote:If the bible is to be believed Jesus was a perfect man, whose body was prepared directly by an Almighty God that does everything perfectly... why would a perfect human specimen of a man be physically repulsive or even aesthetically substandard ?
I know of no Bible passage that says Jesus was perfect although Hebrews 4:15 does describe him as "without sin." No doubt the beauty of his appearance like everybody else's appearance would have been in the eye of the beholder.

I am assuming that Jesus existed, of course.

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Tcg wrote:You've failed to provide evidence that Almighty God does anything, much less that what he does is perfect.
God created the world.
The world is not perfect.
Therefore, God created an imperfect world.

I think a perfect being could choose to do something that is imperfect. If God exists, then he chose to create an imperfect world.

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If he is the Messiah and without sin then why will the Messiah offer a sin sacrifice for himself in end the third temple when it is built? And I thought Jesus died once for all sins. If that's true why will the sacrificial system in the temple be reinstated?

Christians believe the servent in Isaiah 53 is jesus. It's not but if christians insist then....

Excerpt from 53:

"... He hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him....".

Now what?

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Avoice wrote: [Replying to post 5 by Jagella]

If he is the Messiah and without sin then why will the Messiah offer a sin sacrifice for himself in end the third temple when it is built? And I thought Jesus died once for all sins. If that's true why will the sacrificial system in the temple be reinstated?

Do you have a scriptural reference in support of this question? If so would you please supply it.

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[Replying to post 8 by JehovahsWitness]

Okay, give me a few minutes.
If what I say is true will that mean anything to you? I mean it should.

At least you want to see it. I applaude you for that. Most Christian's don't want to read anything that contradicts Christianity.

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And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
Thus saith the Lord God; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary:
And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court.
And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erreth, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house.
In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
And upon that day shall the prince prepare FOR HIMSELF and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

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